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* [PATCH 0/1] NEWS: Avoid the words "nominative" and "genitive".
@ 2018-07-27  9:44 Rafal Luzynski
  2018-07-27  9:48 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Rafal Luzynski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rafal Luzynski @ 2018-07-27  9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha; +Cc: Carlos O'Donell

Shouldn't we avoid the terms "nominative" and "genitive" when
referring to the support of two grammatical forms of month names?
As an example, a Scottish Gaelic translator told me that their grammar
rules call these cases "nominative" and "possessive".  Unfortunately,
I don't remember where this was said and whether it was a private
email or a public list.

Additionally, there are languages where the genitive case exists but
it is incorrect to use it when formatting a date.

Thoughts?  Carlos?

Regards,

Rafal

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* [PATCH 1/1] NEWS: Avoid the words "nominative" and "genitive".
  2018-07-27  9:44 [PATCH 0/1] NEWS: Avoid the words "nominative" and "genitive" Rafal Luzynski
@ 2018-07-27  9:48 ` Rafal Luzynski
  2018-07-27 11:50   ` Carlos O'Donell
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rafal Luzynski @ 2018-07-27  9:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha; +Cc: Carlos O'Donell

Glibc supports two grammatical forms of month names and we keep adding
the locale data which actually use this feature but those two forms are
not necessarily nominative and genitive.  It is better to use a more
generic term.
---
 NEWS | 7 ++++---
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS
index b08fee6..c946ba2 100644
--- a/NEWS
+++ b/NEWS
@@ -48,13 +48,14 @@ Major new features:
   - fdiv, fdivl, ddivl and corresponding fMdivfN, fMdivfNx, fMxdivfN and
     fMxdivfNx functions.
 
-* Nominative and genitive month names are now supported for the following
+* Two grammatical forms of month names are now supported for the following
   languages: Armenian, Asturian, Catalan, Czech, Kashubian, Occitan, Ossetian,
   Scottish Gaelic, Upper Sorbian, and Walloon.  The following languages now
-  support abbreviated alternative month names: Catalan, Greek, and Kashubian.
+  support two grammatical forms in abbreviated month names: Catalan, Greek,
+  and Kashubian.
 
 * Newly added locales: Lower Sorbian (dsb_DE) and Yakut (sah_RU) also
-  include the support of the nominative and genitive month names.
+  include the support for two grammatical forms of month names.
 
 * Building and running on GNU/Hurd systems now works without out-of-tree
   patches.
-- 
2.7.5

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] NEWS: Avoid the words "nominative" and "genitive".
  2018-07-27  9:48 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Rafal Luzynski
@ 2018-07-27 11:50   ` Carlos O'Donell
  2018-07-27 19:50     ` Rafal Luzynski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Carlos O'Donell @ 2018-07-27 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rafal Luzynski, libc-alpha

On 07/27/2018 05:47 AM, Rafal Luzynski wrote:
> Glibc supports two grammatical forms of month names and we keep adding
> the locale data which actually use this feature but those two forms are
> not necessarily nominative and genitive.  It is better to use a more
> generic term.
> ---
>  NEWS | 7 ++++---
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

OK for 2.28/master.

Please commit.

Reviewed-by: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>

> 
> diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS
> index b08fee6..c946ba2 100644
> --- a/NEWS
> +++ b/NEWS
> @@ -48,13 +48,14 @@ Major new features:
>    - fdiv, fdivl, ddivl and corresponding fMdivfN, fMdivfNx, fMxdivfN and
>      fMxdivfNx functions.
>  
> -* Nominative and genitive month names are now supported for the following
> +* Two grammatical forms of month names are now supported for the following
>    languages: Armenian, Asturian, Catalan, Czech, Kashubian, Occitan, Ossetian,
>    Scottish Gaelic, Upper Sorbian, and Walloon.  The following languages now
> -  support abbreviated alternative month names: Catalan, Greek, and Kashubian.
> +  support two grammatical forms in abbreviated month names: Catalan, Greek,
> +  and Kashubian.
>  
>  * Newly added locales: Lower Sorbian (dsb_DE) and Yakut (sah_RU) also
> -  include the support of the nominative and genitive month names.
> +  include the support for two grammatical forms of month names.
>  
>  * Building and running on GNU/Hurd systems now works without out-of-tree
>    patches.
> 

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* Re: [PATCH 1/1] NEWS: Avoid the words "nominative" and "genitive".
  2018-07-27 11:50   ` Carlos O'Donell
@ 2018-07-27 19:50     ` Rafal Luzynski
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Rafal Luzynski @ 2018-07-27 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha, Carlos O'Donell

27.07.2018 13:49 Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 07/27/2018 05:47 AM, Rafal Luzynski wrote:
> > Glibc supports two grammatical forms of month names and we keep adding
> > the locale data which actually use this feature but those two forms are
> > not necessarily nominative and genitive. It is better to use a more
> > generic term.
> > ---
> > NEWS | 7 ++++---
> > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> OK for 2.28/master.
>
> Please commit.
>
> Reviewed-by: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>

Thank you, Carlos.  This patch has been committed to master now.

Regards,

Rafal

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