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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Federico Bruni <fede@inventati.org>,
	Translation Project <tp@lists.linux.it>
Cc: libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	primes2h@ubuntu.com, dforsi@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Updating Italian libc translation for ESTALE in glibc
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:42:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <24817d4a-9c67-d0a9-0086-008378a7d356@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <I13ATR.KD7RBK7L8A4F2@inventati.org>

On 4/17/23 17:15, Federico Bruni wrote:
> 
> 
> Il giorno lun 17 apr 2023 alle 22:46:35 +0200, Daniele Forsi <dforsi@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> Hello Carlos,
>>
>>>  I have an Italian translation for ESTALE that could be used.
>>
>> the translations that you quoted are wrong because they are
>> translating "handle" as "handling"
>>>  msgstr "Gestione del file NFS interrotta"
>>>  msgstr "Gestione file obsoleti"
>>
>>
>> the word "handle" is difficult to translate in this context and I
>> don't know a translation for "stale" in this context better than the
>> one in RHEL6 and RHEL7, however I would use a singular form, so I
>> suggest:
>> msgid "Stale file handle"
>> msgstr "Handle di file obsoleto"
>>
>> I found some hits on search engines for "handle di file" but none for
>> "handle di file obsoleto"
>>
> 
> I think "handle" should be translated.
> There's no Italian translation in Wikipedia:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handle_(computing)
> 
> As it's described as an abstract reference to a resource (a file), I would use the translation of reference, that is:
> 
> "Riferimento obsoleto al file"

I prefer the first (at least my Argentine brain says it sounds better ;-)).

> "Riferimento al file obsoleto"
> 
> Which one sounds better?
> The handle is stale (not the file), right?

Correct, the inode/handle/descriptor is stale, not the file.

The process can reopen the file to refresh the handle.

It would be great to get a translation for this for libc, since ESTALE is
an important error return for filesystem access functions.

Is there anything I can do to support adding a translation for Italian?

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-18 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-14 17:48 Carlos O'Donell
2023-04-17 20:46 ` Daniele Forsi
2023-04-17 21:15   ` Federico Bruni
2023-04-18 13:42     ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2023-04-18 20:39       ` Federico Bruni
2023-04-20 16:13         ` Sergio Zanchetta

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