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From: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>
To: "Wilco Dijkstra" <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	"Tang, Jun" <juntangc@amazon.com>
Cc: "GNU libc development" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: bug fix for hp-timing.h (aarch64)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2023 13:54:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <31276f46-5376-4c2c-85c7-ffa08e9a771d@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PAWPR08MB89827F5DF4148282647889AC83FD9@PAWPR08MB8982.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Jan 12, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Wilco Dijkstra wrote:
> Hi Zack,
>
>> I'm surprised to hear you say that.  To me, 16 seconds is an absurdly _long_
>> interval for use of hp-timing.h.  For anything longer than a few tens of
>> milliseconds, the overhead of two system calls is negligible, but both CPU
>> frequency changes and getting descheduled in the middle of the
>> measurement become serious concerns.  So it seems more appropriate to
>> me to use clock_gettime with a per-process or per-thread clock ID for
>> measurements on the scale of tens of seconds.
>
> On AArch64 the counter is absolutely solid - it's fixed frequency and system
> wide monotonically increasing. So there are no issues with varying clock
> frequency or rescheduling to a different core, you get elapsed time at
> nanosecond accuracy.

... but that's not what you _want_ for a benchmark!  You don't want the time to tick up while the benchmark process is preempted (not executing on _any_ core), for instance.  Or am I misunderstanding what this is used for?

zw

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-12 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-11 22:49 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-12 14:38 ` Tang, Jun
2023-01-12 18:07   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-12 18:54     ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2023-01-12 20:32       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-12 20:51         ` Noah Goldstein
2023-01-16 16:33           ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-16 17:01             ` Noah Goldstein
2023-01-16 18:35               ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-01-12 15:11 ` Zack Weinberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-01-11 16:44 Tang, Jun
2023-01-11 17:22 ` Zack Weinberg
2023-01-31 14:47   ` Tang, Jun

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