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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
	DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>,
	"zack@owlfolio.org" <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: "fweimer@redhat.com" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] malloc: Use correct C11 atomics for fastbin
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 10:37:21 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <69d79a25-17a3-d63c-1b93-b941f782449a@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PAWPR08MB89820A2AA92B6692C064CF38831B9@PAWPR08MB8982.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>



On 06/12/22 10:29, Wilco Dijkstra via Libc-alpha wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2022-12-02 1:55 PM, DJ Delorie via Libc-alpha wrote:
>>> Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com> writes:
>>>> If we want to make tcache actually work, it will have to support far more
>>>> allocations, particularly for smaller sizes.
>>>
>>> You can test that with a tunable; the max count per bin is runtime
>>> tunable.
> 
> Yes you can use tunables, but how many applications actually use more
> optimized settings? It's the default that is the problem.
> 
>>> But yeah, the point of tcache is to have a few of many sizes for fast
>>> allocations.  Fastbins has a lot of a few small sizes.  Testing showed
>>> that both were required for best performance with the average
>>> application.
> 
> Yes, that's due the tiny size of tcache (let's call it tiny-cache!). Once exhausted,
> you mostly end up using the fastbins.
> 
>> Every time we start talking about fastbins vs tcache again I start 
>> wondering, again, what's stopping us from replacing the entire malloc 
>> implementation with jemalloc, or any other implementation designed less 
>> than 20 years ago.
> 
> I can't see any technical reason why not. It's either that or completely rewriting
> the current implementation and getting rid of decades of accumulated cruft...
> 
> Modern allocators are not only much faster than GLIBC in their default settings
> but also have lower memory usage. The two best allocators seem to be mimalloc
> and jemalloc.


Do they have compatible license so we can just import/adapt the code? 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-06 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-21 16:09 Wilco Dijkstra
2022-11-21 16:18 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-21 16:55   ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-11-21 16:56     ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-11-21 17:00     ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02  5:11 ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-02  6:36   ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 10:56     ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-02 11:24       ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 12:02         ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-02 18:55           ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-05 18:39             ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-06 16:19               ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-12  3:35                 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-12 11:57                   ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-12 11:56                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-06 13:29             ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-06 13:37               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2022-12-06 14:31                 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-06 16:23               ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-15 15:43                 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-02 18:55     ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-06 15:04 Wilco Dijkstra

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