From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>,
DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>,
"zack@owlfolio.org" <zack@owlfolio.org>
Cc: "fweimer@redhat.com" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
"libc-alpha@sourceware.org" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] malloc: Use correct C11 atomics for fastbin
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2022 10:37:21 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <69d79a25-17a3-d63c-1b93-b941f782449a@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PAWPR08MB89820A2AA92B6692C064CF38831B9@PAWPR08MB8982.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>
On 06/12/22 10:29, Wilco Dijkstra via Libc-alpha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2022-12-02 1:55 PM, DJ Delorie via Libc-alpha wrote:
>>> Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com> writes:
>>>> If we want to make tcache actually work, it will have to support far more
>>>> allocations, particularly for smaller sizes.
>>>
>>> You can test that with a tunable; the max count per bin is runtime
>>> tunable.
>
> Yes you can use tunables, but how many applications actually use more
> optimized settings? It's the default that is the problem.
>
>>> But yeah, the point of tcache is to have a few of many sizes for fast
>>> allocations. Fastbins has a lot of a few small sizes. Testing showed
>>> that both were required for best performance with the average
>>> application.
>
> Yes, that's due the tiny size of tcache (let's call it tiny-cache!). Once exhausted,
> you mostly end up using the fastbins.
>
>> Every time we start talking about fastbins vs tcache again I start
>> wondering, again, what's stopping us from replacing the entire malloc
>> implementation with jemalloc, or any other implementation designed less
>> than 20 years ago.
>
> I can't see any technical reason why not. It's either that or completely rewriting
> the current implementation and getting rid of decades of accumulated cruft...
>
> Modern allocators are not only much faster than GLIBC in their default settings
> but also have lower memory usage. The two best allocators seem to be mimalloc
> and jemalloc.
Do they have compatible license so we can just import/adapt the code?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-06 13:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-21 16:09 Wilco Dijkstra
2022-11-21 16:18 ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-21 16:55 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-11-21 16:56 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-11-21 17:00 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 5:11 ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-02 6:36 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 10:56 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-02 11:24 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-02 12:02 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-02 18:55 ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-05 18:39 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-06 16:19 ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-12 3:35 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-12 11:57 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-12 11:56 ` Florian Weimer
2022-12-06 13:29 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-06 13:37 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2022-12-06 14:31 ` Zack Weinberg
2022-12-06 16:23 ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-15 15:43 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2022-12-02 18:55 ` DJ Delorie
2022-12-06 15:04 Wilco Dijkstra
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