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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: time64 / Large File Support: 2) default time64 breaks legacy 32bit binaries
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:13:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7271eb94-b5d7-69d6-9be0-ca1afda29a50@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7196595.N7aMVyhfb1@pinacolada>

On 1/25/23 15:59, Andreas K. Huettel via Libc-alpha wrote:

> This was discussed already in the previous thread on this list [1], with reactions
> ranging from "need new triplet" via "need new libdir" to "meh"....
> [1] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-November/143386.html

One thing new since that November email is that in bleeding-edge 
Autoconf we've scaled back AC_SYS_LARGEFILE so it no longer widens 
time_t by default. Instead, you need to pass a new option 
--enable-year2038 to 'configure' if you want 64-bit time_t on 32-bit 
glibc x86 and ARM platforms, which as I understand it are the only 
platforms that have this problem. If a package author wants 
--enable-year2038 to be the default, they need to use Autoconf's new 
AC_SYS_YEAR2038 macro. This change has also percolated into Gnulib so 
source packages using recent Gnulib will need to use the new Gnulib 
module year2038 if they want --enable-year2038 to be the default.

This change was done out of concern that although AC_SYS_LARGEFILE has 
long tweaked blkcnt_t, dev_t, ino_t, fsblkcnt_t, fsfilcnt_t and rlim_t 
(in addition to off_t of course), having it also tweak time_t was a 
compatibility bridge too far.

> Proposal: glibc gains two new build-time configure options:
> * --enable-hard-time64
> * --enable-hard-lfs

This sort of thing sounds like a good way to go. However, I suggest 
simplifying things, by having just one option (say, 
--enable-hard-sys-types64) that does both at once, because 
--enable-hard-time64 and --enable-hard-lfs would not be orthogonal and 
this would be confusing, and anyway nobody sane will want to use one 
option without also using the other - who wants the agony of *two* 
conversions?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-26  4:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25 23:57 The time64 and Large File Support mess Andreas K. Huettel
2023-01-25 23:58 ` time64 / Large File Support: 1) [2.28 Regression]: New getdents{64} implementation breaks qemu-user Andreas K. Huettel
2023-01-26 12:21   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-01-27 20:08     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-01-25 23:59 ` time64 / Large File Support: 2) default time64 breaks legacy 32bit binaries Andreas K. Huettel
2023-01-26  4:13   ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2023-01-26 13:21     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-01-26 23:35       ` Sam James
2023-01-27 17:33         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-02-01 16:26         ` Florian Weimer
2023-02-01 19:47           ` Sam James
2023-02-01 19:54             ` Sam James
2023-02-03 17:52             ` Florian Weimer
2023-02-01 22:22           ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2023-02-03 14:17             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-02-03 18:56               ` Florian Weimer
2023-01-27  2:38       ` Paul Eggert
2023-01-27 17:40         ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-01-27 23:51           ` Paul Eggert
2023-01-27 23:58             ` Joseph Myers
2023-02-01 12:27               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-01-26 10:43   ` Florian Weimer

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