From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: "Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
Cc: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] Default to --with-default-link=no (bug 25812)
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 18:14:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qxf27fg.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220429160206.GA7698@altlinux.org> (Dmitry V. Levin's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2022 19:02:06 +0300")
* Dmitry V. Levin:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 08:35:37AM +0200, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
>> * Siddhesh Poyarekar:
>>
>> >> diff --git a/INSTALL b/INSTALL
>> >> index 63c022d6b9..de150f66eb 100644
>> >> --- a/INSTALL
>> >> +++ b/INSTALL
>> >> @@ -90,6 +90,12 @@ if 'CFLAGS' is specified it must enable optimization. For example:
>> >> library will still be usable, but functionality may be lost--for
>> >> example, you can't build a shared libc with old binutils.
>> >> +'--with-default-link=FLAG'
>> >> + With '--with-default-link=yes', the GNU C Library does not use a
>> >> + custom linker scipt for linking its individual shared objects. The
>> >> + default for FLAG is the opposite, 'no', because the custom linker
>> >> + script is needed for full RELRO protection.
>> >> +
>> >
>> > Andreas' comments still apply here I think, i.e. fix the "scipt" type
>> > and rephrase so that it's clearer that the option controls the library
>> > build process and not the library itself.
>>
>> I thought I had fixed this. What about this?
>>
>> '--with-default-link=FLAG'
>> With '--with-default-link=yes', the build system does not use a
>> custom linker script for linking shared objects. The default for
>> FLAG is the opposite, 'no', because the custom linker script is
>> needed for full RELRO protection.
>>
>> > Does it make sense to make this --disable-custom-link or
>> > --enable-default-link instead, since the option is binary? The --with
>> > prefix is typically for richer options, e.g. paths. Suggest something
>> > like this:
>> >
>> > --disable-custom-link
>> > Don't use a custom linker script to build the GNU C Library,
>> > preferring the static linker's default script instead. The custom
>> > linker script is needed for full RELRO protection.
>>
>> I want to backport this, and distributions are already using this
>> option, so I prefer not to make changes here.
>
> I'm sorry to remind you something you know pretty well - the traditional
> recommendations on choosing --enable-FEATURE[=ARG]/--disable-FEATURE[1]
> vs --with-PACKAGE[=ARG]/--without-PACKAGE[2].
>
> The first pair of options is to specify which build-time features to
> enable, and the second one is to specify which external software to use.
>
> If a downstream does not follow the documentation, this fact shouldn't be
> normally used as a rationale for not following the documentation upstream.
>
> If changes are accepted upstream as is just because they are already in
> use downstream, this would open the way to all kinds of sloppy changes.
I think your comment is based on an assumption that this is a new
option?
This change did not add the --with-default-link configure option, only
the documentation for it, and it changed the default to the safe one.
Thanks,
Florian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-29 16:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-11 15:32 [PATCH v3 1/2] scripts: Add glibcelf.py module Florian Weimer
2022-04-11 15:32 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] Default to --with-default-link=no (bug 25812) Florian Weimer
2022-04-22 6:12 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-04-22 6:35 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-22 8:12 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-04-22 8:24 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-22 8:32 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-04-22 8:34 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-22 8:36 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-04-22 8:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-04-29 16:02 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-04-29 16:14 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2022-04-29 20:48 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2022-04-28 7:25 ` Fangrui Song
2022-04-28 8:40 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-29 6:00 ` Fangrui Song
2022-04-29 7:09 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-29 7:43 ` Fangrui Song
2022-04-29 14:55 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-29 19:26 ` Fangrui Song
2022-04-29 12:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-04-29 13:17 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-29 13:55 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-04-29 14:03 ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-21 15:54 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] scripts: Add glibcelf.py module Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-04-21 20:23 ` Florian Weimer
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