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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] aarch64: Use generic argv adjustment in ld.so [BZ #23293]
Date: Tue, 03 May 2022 19:00:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rrift51.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnFeE7VOHc+/LL47@arm.com> (Szabolcs Nagy's message of "Tue, 3 May 2022 17:53:39 +0100")

* Szabolcs Nagy:

> The 05/03/2022 13:53, Florian Weimer via Libc-alpha wrote:
>> * Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha:
>> 
>> > When an executable is invoked as
>> >
>> >   ./ld.so [ld.so-args] ./exe [exe-args]
>> >
>> > then the argv is adujusted in ld.so before calling the entry point of
>> > the executable so ld.so args are not visible to it.  On most targets
>> > this requires moving argv, env and auxv on the stack to ensure correct
>> > stack alignment at the entry point.  This had several issues:
>> >
>> > - The code for this adjustment on the stack is written in asm as part
>> >   of the target specific ld.so _start code which is hard to maintain.
>> >
>> > - The adjustment is done after _dl_start returns, where it's too late
>> >   to update GLRO(dl_auxv), as it is already readonly, so it points to
>> >   memory that was clobbered by the adjustment. This is bug 23293.
>> >
>> > - _environ is also wrong in ld.so after the adjustment, but it is
>> >   likely not used after _dl_start returns so this is not user visible.
>> >
>> > - _dl_argv was updated, but for this it was moved out of relro, which
>> >   changes security properties across targets unnecessarily.
>> >
>> > This patch introduces a generic _dl_start_args_adjust function that
>> > handles the argument adjustments after ld.so processed its own args
>> > and before relro protection is applied.  It sets _dl_skip_args to 0 so
>> > the existing adjustment in asm is not invoked.  Each target has to
>> > opt-in to use this new adjustment since some targets don't need it.
>> > Once all targets are updated, _dl_argv declaration can be simplified.
>> >
>> > A new _dl_start_argptr was introduced because the original sp is not
>> > passed to dl_main which now has to do the adjustments.
>> >
>> > --
>> > v2:
>> > - use p != NULL, and a_type != AT_NULL
>> > - remove the confusing paragraph from the commit message.
>> 
>> Looks good to me.
>> 
>> Reviewed-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
>
> thanks, meanwhile i started working on v4.
>
> that always does the new adjustment (even on targets that don't
> require it) since ld.so invocation does not have to be optimal
> but it's better to have consistent behaviour.
>
> then the bug is fixed everywhere (not just opt-in).
>
> is that an acceptable approach?

Sorry, I would have to see the patch.  But I generally appreciate
consistency.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-03 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-13 13:00 [PATCH v3 0/2] Args adjustment with ./ld.so exe " Szabolcs Nagy
2022-04-13 13:00 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] aarch64: Use generic argv adjustment in ld.so " Szabolcs Nagy
2022-05-03 11:53   ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-03 16:53     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-05-03 17:00       ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2022-04-13 13:00 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] aarch64: Move ld.so _start to separate file and drop _dl_skip_args Szabolcs Nagy
2022-05-03 11:53   ` Florian Weimer

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