public inbox for libc-alpha@sourceware.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] intl: Treat C.UTF-8 locale like C locale, part 2 (BZ# 16621)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 10:08:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkavn5zg.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230910191739.1083016-1-bruno@clisp.org> (Bruno Haible's message of "Sun, 10 Sep 2023 21:17:39 +0200")

* Bruno Haible:

> The previous commit was incomplete: gettext() still returns a translation
> if the file /usr/share/locale/C/LC_MESSAGES/<domain>.mo exists. This patch
> prohibits the translation also in this case.
>
> * gettext-runtime/intl/dcigettext.c (DCIGETTEXT): Treat C.<encoding> locale
> like the C locale.
> ---
>  intl/dcigettext.c | 7 ++++---
>  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/intl/dcigettext.c b/intl/dcigettext.c
> index 27063886d2..fb69bbf94b 100644
> --- a/intl/dcigettext.c
> +++ b/intl/dcigettext.c
> @@ -691,9 +691,10 @@ DCIGETTEXT (const char *domainname, const char *msgid1, const char *msgid2,
>  	    continue;
>  	}
>  
> -      /* If the current locale value is C (or POSIX) we don't load a
> -	 domain.  Return the MSGID.  */
> -      if (strcmp (single_locale, "C") == 0
> +      /* If the current locale value is "C" or "C.<encoding>" or "POSIX",
> +	 we don't load a domain.  Return the MSGID.  */
> +      if ((single_locale[0] == 'C'
> +	   && (single_locale[1] == '\0' || single_locale[1] == '.'))
>  	  || strcmp (single_locale, "POSIX") == 0)
>  	break;

These arguments:

> * The wiki page https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Proposals/C.UTF-8 states
>   "It shall be the C locale but with UTF-8 encodings."
>   and
>   "These will be the same as C... LC_MESSAGES"
> 
>   The C locale has the property that gettext() returns the msgid in all cases,
>   regardless of what files are on disk and regardless of the values of any
>   environment variables.
> 
>   If the C.UTF-8 has the property that gettext() returns msgid only if there
>   is no translation catalog at /usr/share/locale/C/LC_MESSAGES/<domain>.mo,
>   it is *not* the same as "the C locale but with UTF-8 encodings".
> 
> * We have this rule, that gettext() returns the msgid when the locale is the
>   "C" locale, because
>      - the POSIX standard specifies the precise output of some programs (e.g.
>        'diff') in the C locale, and
>      - we wanted, from the beginning in 1995, that gettext() can be used in
>        the source code of these programs, without an explicit check for the
>        locale.
>   It is possible that, in the long run, POSIX adopts the C.UTF-8 locale,
>   since several platforms already have it: glibc, musl libc, FreeBSD, NetBSD,
>   OpenBSD, Cygwin, Android.
>   When this happens, we want that the maintainers of 'diff' etc. can continue
>   to use gettext(), without introducing an explicit check for the locale.

<https://inbox.sourceware.org/libc-alpha/10272749.85pcf5A44T@nimes/>

convined me, so:

Reviewed-by: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>

I'll push it for you.

Thanks,
Florian


      parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-12  9:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-10 19:17 Bruno Haible
2023-09-11  7:43 ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-12 14:44   ` Bruno Haible
2023-12-12  9:08 ` Florian Weimer [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87bkavn5zg.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com \
    --to=fweimer@redhat.com \
    --cc=bruno@clisp.org \
    --cc=libc-alpha@sourceware.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).