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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org,  linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	 x86@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	 "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: x86 CPU features detection for applications (and AMX)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2021 16:41:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lf6gswai.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba004c50-a630-27f4-5fb0-c6ad2b1f1e06@intel.com> (Dave Hansen's message of "Thu, 8 Jul 2021 07:36:44 -0700")

* Dave Hansen:

> That's kinda my whole point.
>
> These *MUST* be curated to be meaningful.  Right now, someone just
> dumped a set of CPUID bits into the documentation.
>
> The interface really needs *three* modes:
>
> 1. Yes, the CPU/OS supports this feature
> 2. No, the CPU/OS doesn't support this feature
> 3. Hell if I know, never heard of this feature
> 	
> The interface really conflates 2 and 3.  To me, that makes it
> fundamentally flawed.

That's an interesing point.

3 looks potentially more useful than the feature/usable distinction to
me.

The recent RTM change suggests that there are more states, but we
probably can't do much about such soft-disable changes.

Thanks,
Florian


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-08 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-23 15:04 Florian Weimer
2021-06-23 15:32 ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08  6:05   ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 14:19     ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 14:31       ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 14:36         ` Dave Hansen
2021-07-08 14:41           ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-06-25 23:31 ` Thiago Macieira
     [not found]   ` <3c5c29e2-1b52-3576-eda2-018fb1e58ff9@metux.net>
2021-06-28 13:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <534d0171-2cc5-cd0a-904f-cd3c499b55af@metux.net>
2021-06-30 15:36         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 15:08     ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 15:27       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 16:13         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 17:11           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 17:23             ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 19:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 19:26                 ` Thiago Macieira
2021-06-28 17:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-28 19:05             ` Thiago Macieira
     [not found]       ` <e07294c9-b02a-e1c5-3620-7fae7269fdf1@metux.net>
2021-06-30 14:34         ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]           ` <030f1462-2bf9-39bc-d620-6d9fbe454a27@metux.net>
2021-06-30 15:38             ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]               ` <4ba30cb7-6854-0691-fad6-4ca9ce674ac2@metux.net>
2021-07-01  8:21                 ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                   ` <034dcf9b-1f8c-23ee-86a6-791122bc0f8c@metux.net>
2021-07-06 12:57                     ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-30 15:29         ` Thiago Macieira
2021-07-08  7:08   ` Florian Weimer
2021-07-08 15:13     ` Thiago Macieira
2021-07-08 17:56 ` Mark Brown

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