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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>, Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim.kuvyrkov@linaro.org>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Action Required] glibc decision to use CTI services.
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2023 07:54:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <89eeebda-4f12-e819-4a8d-c0aaac50a3c9@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43743bb5-e79e-f915-9528-4b3556de1c5c@gotplt.org>

On 2023-09-01 05:30, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:

> It is the Technical Advisory Committee that decides on the 
> infrastructure tech and that is comprised completely of members from the 
> GNU toolchain community.  We will make sure that glibc services are 
> implemented using Free software.

This sounds good, but I don't see the Linux Foundation agreeing to it in 
the URLs Carlos mentioned at the start of this thread (see below). What 
I see are statements[1][2] from the GNU Toolchain Infrastructure project 
that GTI has "requested" that only free software be used. This is not 
the same thing.

It'd be helpful to have a statement from the Linux Foundation that they 
agree to use only free software to support glibc, and that GTI's 
Technical Advisory Committee is empowered to inspect the Core Toolchain 
Infrastructure used for glibc, so that the GTI TAC can verify that only 
free software is used.

This shouldn't be that much to ask for. And I would think that the Linux 
Foundation would welcome such an agreement, not only because the Linux 
Foundation wants to support free software, but because it wants its 
infrastructure to be open and checkable and usable by others.


> it's not about the overseers, who have indeed been prompt in handling requests and providing support for existing infrastructure. It's about doing things like service isolation, future enhancements/scaling and dedicated devops

It would indeed be nice to have things like that.


Here are the URLs from Carlos's earlier email.

> [1] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q3/018896.html
> [2] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/overseers/2022q4/018981.html
> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/gti-tac/804cee43-a120-3acf-a302-b1640f2285a9@redhat.com/
> [4] https://lore.kernel.org/cti-tac/47d5d7a0-60ab-b400-2f75-880fdaae0738@redhat.com/T/#u
> [5] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2023-August/150610.html
> [6] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2023-July/150071.html

  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-01 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <b84ea4a5-651a-1a4c-06c8-e9ade4b7d702@redhat.com>
2023-08-30 17:19 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-08-30 17:31   ` Joseph Myers
2023-08-31 19:59     ` Paul Eggert
2023-09-01  6:03       ` Sam James
2023-09-01  8:55         ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-01  9:02           ` Sam James
2023-09-01  9:21             ` dmarc, dkim and From rewriting Mark Wielaard
2023-09-01 11:52               ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-01  9:03           ` [Action Required] glibc decision to use CTI services Andrew Pinski
2023-09-01 11:49             ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-01 13:32           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2023-09-01 12:30         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-09-01 14:54           ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2023-09-01 16:08             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-09-01 15:01           ` Sam James
2023-09-01 16:19             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2023-09-01 16:30             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-09-02 18:25             ` Mark Wielaard
2023-09-01  9:08       ` Mark Wielaard
2023-09-03  6:31       ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-09-27 13:49       ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-10-04  0:09         ` Paul Eggert
2023-09-01 15:09     ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-09-27 13:50     ` Carlos O'Donell
2024-02-13  0:43       ` Carlos O'Donell
2024-02-19 21:22         ` Alexandre Oliva
2024-02-19 22:03           ` DJ Delorie
2024-02-20  1:49             ` Mark Wielaard
2024-02-20  3:01             ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-08-31  8:37   ` Mark Wielaard
2023-09-01 15:08     ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-08-31 10:34   ` Florian Weimer
2023-09-04  6:09     ` Alexandre Oliva

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