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From: Noah Goldstein <goldstein.w.n@gmail.com>
To: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2022 11:23:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFUsyfJS7NyL5cx9O3whMxg2+mbpyJAeTTkhCU3D20uAJzHvAQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f54f1ec9-fc31-283f-bce9-59fd8bda98ad@ispras.ru>

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:17 AM Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, Noah Goldstein wrote:
>
> > > However, when you reroll the loop and overlap two iterations, multiplication
> > > by 33*33 no longer has this nice property and runs with two 4cyc paths
> > > overlapped (so effective critical path is the same as original).
> >
> > the 33 * c0 can still use `addl; sall; addl` so not sure what you mean by
> > two 4cyc paths overlapped. Its one 4c path.
> >
> > `imul; addl` and `addl; sall; addl`.
> >
> > But it's fair that either wait its 4c of computation for 2 iterations. The
> > difference is the 5c load latency being amortized over 2 iterations
> > or 1 iteration.
>
> Right, it's one 4c path, I was thinking about something else for a moment.
> I'm not sure it's correct to amortize load latency like that, I'd say the
> difference is just that the original loop cannot issue two loads at once
> because of the dependency in its address computation.
>
> I see you dropped libc-alpha@ from Cc:, was that intentional?
No misclick sorry. Adding it back.

I think it is the way you're doing your analysis as a loop-carried
dependency. I.e really 7c per iteration with no unroll (although
its fair the loads on address can speculate ahead so it will
indeed be faster) vs 9c per 2x iterations.

>
> Alexander

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-04-27 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14  4:12 [PATCH v1 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14  4:12 ` [PATCH v1 2/6] elf: Add tests for the hash functions in dl-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14  4:12 ` [PATCH v1 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14  4:12 ` [PATCH v1 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14  4:12 ` [PATCH v1 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14  4:12 ` [PATCH v1 6/6] elf: Optimize __dl_new_hash in dl-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14  4:32 ` [PATCH v1 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked H.J. Lu
2022-04-14 14:56   ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14 14:55 ` [PATCH v2 " Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:39     ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-25 15:59       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:38     ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-25 15:58       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-26  8:35         ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-26 21:39           ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 10:48             ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-27 15:02               ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-04-14 14:55   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:58   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:58   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:58   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:58   ` [PATCH v3 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:58   ` [PATCH v3 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 16:01   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Adhemerval Zanella
2022-04-25 16:18     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 15:59 ` [PATCH v1 " Adhemerval Zanella
2022-04-25 16:16   ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 16:35 ` [PATCH v3 " Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 16:35   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 16:35   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 10:39     ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-27 16:24       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 16:35   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-04-25 16:36   ` [PATCH v3 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 10:47     ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-25 16:36   ` [PATCH v3 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 10:43     ` Florian Weimer
2022-04-27 16:25       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 15:02     ` Alexander Monakov
     [not found]       ` <CAFUsyfKeocq4VAusvnggq-NR=tOQTjrD0Z6r3CYCTjGQ=tGGSw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]         ` <f54f1ec9-fc31-283f-bce9-59fd8bda98ad@ispras.ru>
2022-04-27 16:23           ` Noah Goldstein [this message]
2022-04-28 18:03             ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-04 18:04               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 11:07                 ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 15:10                   ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-05 15:26                     ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 18:03                       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-05 19:37                         ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-05 22:51                           ` Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 16:19 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 16:19   ` [PATCH v4 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 16:19   ` [PATCH v4 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 16:20   ` [PATCH v4 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 16:20   ` [PATCH v4 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-04-27 16:20   ` [PATCH v4 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-09 17:17 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-05-09 17:17   ` [PATCH v5 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-09 17:17   ` [PATCH v5 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-09 17:17   ` [PATCH v5 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-09 17:17   ` [PATCH v5 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-09 17:17   ` [PATCH v5 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 11:58     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-10 15:04 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 15:04   ` [PATCH v6 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 15:04   ` [PATCH v6 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 15:04   ` [PATCH v6 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 15:04   ` [PATCH v6 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 15:04   ` [PATCH v6 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 15:29     ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-10 15:31       ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-10 16:49     ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-10 17:17       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 17:40         ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-10 23:30 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 23:30   ` [PATCH v7 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 23:30   ` [PATCH v7 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 23:30   ` [PATCH v7 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 23:30   ` [PATCH v7 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 23:30   ` [PATCH v7 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-10 23:46     ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-11  3:07       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-11  3:06 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein
2022-05-11  3:06   ` [PATCH v8 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-11  3:06   ` [PATCH v8 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-11  3:06   ` [PATCH v8 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-11  3:06   ` [PATCH v8 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-11  3:06   ` [PATCH v8 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 14:12     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-16 14:31       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 16:23         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-16 16:38           ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 16:44             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-16 20:32               ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 18:09       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 18:47         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-16 19:28           ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 19:35             ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 19:41               ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 19:47                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-16 20:00                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 20:08                     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-16 20:27                       ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 19:48                 ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:33                   ` Alexander Monakov
2022-05-16 21:40                     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-17  1:45             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-16 13:56   ` [PATCH v8 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-16 20:31     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:29 ` [PATCH v9 " Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:30   ` [PATCH v9 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-17  4:19     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:29       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:30   ` [PATCH v9 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-17  4:32     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:30       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:30   ` [PATCH v9 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-17  4:52     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:33       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:30   ` [PATCH v9 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-17  5:11     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:34       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:35         ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-16 20:30   ` [PATCH v9 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-17  5:12     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:38       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 15:59         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 16:54           ` DJ Delorie
2022-05-17  3:34   ` [PATCH v9 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:28     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:26 ` [PATCH v10 " Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:26   ` [PATCH v10 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 14:49     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-18 17:26   ` [PATCH v10 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 15:09     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 15:40       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:20         ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:26   ` [PATCH v10 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 15:34     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:20       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:26   ` [PATCH v10 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 15:41     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:21       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:26   ` [PATCH v10 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-18 17:32     ` H.J. Lu
2022-05-18 17:39       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19  7:53       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 15:55     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:22       ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 14:47   ` [PATCH v10 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 14:50     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 14:56       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:17 ` [PATCH v11 " Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 22:17   ` [PATCH v11 2/6] elf: Add tests for the dl hash funcs (_dl_new_hash and _dl_elf_hash) Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 22:19     ` Noah Goldstein
2022-05-19 22:18   ` [PATCH v11 3/6] nss: Add tests for the nss_hash in nss_hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-23  7:42     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:18   ` [PATCH v11 4/6] benchtests: Add benchtests for dl_elf_hash, dl_new_hash and nss_hash Noah Goldstein
2022-05-23  7:44     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:18   ` [PATCH v11 5/6] nss: Optimize nss_hash in nss_hash.c Noah Goldstein
2022-05-23  7:44     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:18   ` [PATCH v11 6/6] elf: Optimize _dl_new_hash in dl-new-hash.h Noah Goldstein
2022-05-23  7:46     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-05-19 22:18   ` [PATCH v11 1/6] elf: Refactor dl_new_hash so it can be tested / benchmarked Noah Goldstein

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