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From: Wilco Dijkstra <Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com>
To: Cupertino Miranda <cupertino.miranda@oracle.com>
Cc: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	'GNU C Library' <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/1] Created tunable to force small pages on stack allocation.
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:32:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <PAWPR08MB898235B05EA88BD87C2100D983999@PAWPR08MB8982.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1mubjtr.fsf@oracle.com>

Hi Cupertino,

> To contextualize the tunable was proposed to reduce stack memory usage while
> still having THP enabled in the kernel for all other allocation types.
> We identified a scenario which THP will be initially used for stack
> allocation, but once protection gets set for the guard region, it will
> split the huge page into 4k pages, when the 2M page is already marked
> dirty, not really making use of THP benefits, but bloating RSS as all
> the small pages are assumed as touch.

So after the guard region is reserved, we lose 2MB of real memory that will
never be used (as only the top of the stack is used), right?

The next question is whether the splitting of one huge page causes the whole
stack mmap to use small pages too. If so then it never makes sense to use huge
pages for the stack if the guard page is smaller than a huge page (since you lose
2MB of memory and never use huge pages anyway).

Alternatively, if the rest of the stack can still use huge pages, we actually lose 4MB
of RSS (since the top of the stack is a large page and is obviously used). As I
explained, huge pages for stack can still make sense for applications that need
a large amount of stack. For these cases you could just increase the guard size
to avoid wasting the extra 2MB of memory.

> I think you are suggesting the oposite, i.e. it would increase RSS.

Where did I suggest increasing RSS?

> Also Adhemerval patch intention is not to detect when the THP for stack
> allocation makes sense, but rather the oposite. It is to detect when THP
> will not bring any benefit.

It doesn't matter which way around you do it - it is absolutely trivial either way.

Cheers,
Wilco

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-14 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-13 15:43 Wilco Dijkstra
2023-04-13 16:23 ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-13 17:48   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-14 11:28     ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-14 13:24       ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-04-14 14:49         ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-14 15:32           ` Wilco Dijkstra [this message]
2023-04-14 16:03             ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-04-14 16:35               ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-14 23:10                 ` Wilco Dijkstra
2023-04-14 16:27             ` Cupertino Miranda
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-28 15:22 [PATCH v5 0/1] *** " Cupertino Miranda
2023-03-28 15:22 ` [PATCH v5 1/1] " Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-11 19:56   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-12  8:53     ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-12 14:10       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-13 16:13         ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-14 11:41       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-14 12:27         ` Cupertino Miranda
2023-04-14 13:06           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-04-14 14:33             ` Cupertino Miranda

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