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From: Jan Kratochvil <jkratochvil@azul.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Anton Kozlov <akozlov@azul.com>,
	Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RFC: Provide a function to reset IFUNC PLTs
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 18:23:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAhiO4szSzu+DLSq@host1.jankratochvil.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8jdq7ht.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 16:40:46 +0800, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Do you have a high-level overview how this is supposed to work?  Is CRIU
> expected to call the new _dl_reset_ifunc symbol after restore?

Yes, it should be called by CRIU. The current implementation was calling it
from CRaC restore (which uses CRIU underneath) but I agree it is not the
proper placement:
	https://github.com/openjdk/crac/pull/41/files#diff-aeec57d804d56002f26a85359fc4ac8b48cfc249d57c656a30a63fc6bf3457adR6274
The function is called differently there as the IFUNC reset implementation is
outside of glibc there.


> Use of <sys/platform/x86.h> is somewhat rare.  Not even GCC uses it
> AFAIK.  It has its own cached CPU data used for target clones and
> similar features.  Re-running those IFUNC resolvers will just give the
> same results.

I do not use <sys/platform/x86.h> anywhere, why do you mention it?
I am doing there
	memset((volatile uint8_t *)cpu_features, 0, sizeof(*cpu_features));
	...
	_dl_x86_init_cpu_features();
to prevent the cache of CPU data. And it does work.


> Distributions have started to deploy alternate builds in
> glibc-hwcaps/x86-64-v3 directories:
> 
>   openSUSE Tumbleweed gains optional x86-64-v3 optimization
>   <https://news.opensuse.org/2023/03/02/tw-gains-optional-optimizations/>
> 
> This might be a common situation fairly soon.  This is not IFUNC-based
> at all, so any IFUNC-based approach is not going to help with that.

What about some "dlreopen" to replace the variant of glibc?


> Practically speaking, I think cluster heterogeneity needs to be hidden
> at the cluster level.

The question is how to implement it. I have found
	https://github.com/ddcc/libcpuidoverride
but it is not compatible with latest glibc (maybe its loader code needs to
implement ELF relocations, it would be definitely fixable).

Another option is GLIBC_TUNABLES=glibc.cpu.hwcaps=... although then one has to
translate cpuid feature bits into the glibc names like SSE4_2 etc.
Also re-exec() after setenv("GLIBC_TUNABLES") is not too nice.

There are multiple projects solving the same problem such as:
	https://github.com/eclipse-openj9/openj9/issues/14253
So I was thinking some more standardized solution may be already appropriate.


Thanks,
Jan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-08 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-06  8:04 Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-07  8:40 ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-07 13:07   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-08 10:21     ` Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-08 13:04       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-09 11:32         ` Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-09 15:47           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-09 17:43             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-16 14:38             ` Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-20 16:47               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-29 12:12                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-29 13:14                   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2023-03-13 13:59           ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-14 12:55             ` Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-14 14:49               ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-14 15:06                 ` Jan Kratochvil
2023-03-08 10:23   ` Jan Kratochvil [this message]
2023-03-08 10:44     ` Florian Weimer
2023-03-08 11:03       ` Jan Kratochvil

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