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* [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR
@ 2021-11-19 15:26 H.J. Lu
  2021-11-19 15:30 ` Florian Weimer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: H.J. Lu @ 2021-11-19 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: libc-alpha; +Cc: Adhemerval Zanella, Florian Weimer

Executables with DT_RELR will crash mysteriously with glibc binaries
without DT_RELR support.  Bump EI_ABIVERSION won't prevent crash since
the Linux kernel loader doesn't check EI_ABIVERSION on executables.
Adding a glibc version dependency on the first glibc version with
DT_RELR support will prevent backporting DT_RELR support to released
glibc branches.

Add a GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version as a proxy for DT_RELR support in glibc.
Linker should add the GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version dependency on binaries
with DT_RELR.  GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR should be backported together when
backporting DT_RELR support.
---
 io/Versions         | 4 +++-
 scripts/abilist.awk | 2 +-
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/io/Versions b/io/Versions
index 4e19540885..629d458324 100644
--- a/io/Versions
+++ b/io/Versions
@@ -141,7 +141,6 @@ libc {
     closefrom;
   }
   GLIBC_PRIVATE {
-    __libc_fcntl64;
     __fcntl_nocancel;
     __open64_nocancel;
     __write_nocancel;
@@ -151,4 +150,7 @@ libc {
     __file_change_detection_for_fp;
     __fstat64;
   }
+  GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR {
+    __libc_fcntl64;
+  }
 }
diff --git a/scripts/abilist.awk b/scripts/abilist.awk
index 24a34ccbed..620aacb627 100644
--- a/scripts/abilist.awk
+++ b/scripts/abilist.awk
@@ -55,7 +55,7 @@ $2 == "g" || $2 == "w" && (NF == 7 || NF == 8) {
   # caused STV_HIDDEN symbols to appear in .dynsym, though that is useless.
   if (NF > 7 && $7 == ".hidden") next;
 
-  if (version == "GLIBC_PRIVATE" && !include_private) next;
+  if (version ~ /^GLIBC_PRIVATE/ && !include_private) next;
 
   desc = "";
   if (type == "D" && ($4 == ".tbss" || $4 == ".tdata")) {
-- 
2.33.1


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* Re: [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR
  2021-11-19 15:26 [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR H.J. Lu
@ 2021-11-19 15:30 ` Florian Weimer
  2021-11-19 15:36   ` H.J. Lu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2021-11-19 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: H.J. Lu; +Cc: libc-alpha, Adhemerval Zanella

* H. J. Lu:

> Executables with DT_RELR will crash mysteriously with glibc binaries
> without DT_RELR support.  Bump EI_ABIVERSION won't prevent crash since
> the Linux kernel loader doesn't check EI_ABIVERSION on executables.
> Adding a glibc version dependency on the first glibc version with
> DT_RELR support will prevent backporting DT_RELR support to released
> glibc branches.
>
> Add a GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version as a proxy for DT_RELR support in glibc.
> Linker should add the GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version dependency on binaries
> with DT_RELR.  GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR should be backported together when
> backporting DT_RELR support.

I don't like it.  What's wrong about EI_ABIVERSION?

The kernel doesn't need to check EI_ABIVERSION because it does not do
relocation processing.

Thanks,
Florian


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* Re: [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR
  2021-11-19 15:30 ` Florian Weimer
@ 2021-11-19 15:36   ` H.J. Lu
  2021-11-19 22:47     ` Florian Weimer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: H.J. Lu @ 2021-11-19 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Weimer; +Cc: GNU C Library, Adhemerval Zanella

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:30 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> * H. J. Lu:
>
> > Executables with DT_RELR will crash mysteriously with glibc binaries
> > without DT_RELR support.  Bump EI_ABIVERSION won't prevent crash since
> > the Linux kernel loader doesn't check EI_ABIVERSION on executables.
> > Adding a glibc version dependency on the first glibc version with
> > DT_RELR support will prevent backporting DT_RELR support to released
> > glibc branches.
> >
> > Add a GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version as a proxy for DT_RELR support in glibc.
> > Linker should add the GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version dependency on binaries
> > with DT_RELR.  GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR should be backported together when
> > backporting DT_RELR support.
>
> I don't like it.  What's wrong about EI_ABIVERSION?

Bumping EI_ABIVERSION on executables doesn't prevent crashes
with existing ld.so binaries.

> The kernel doesn't need to check EI_ABIVERSION because it does not do
> relocation processing.
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
>


-- 
H.J.

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* Re: [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR
  2021-11-19 15:36   ` H.J. Lu
@ 2021-11-19 22:47     ` Florian Weimer
  2021-11-20  2:55       ` H.J. Lu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Florian Weimer @ 2021-11-19 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: H.J. Lu; +Cc: GNU C Library, Adhemerval Zanella

* H. J. Lu:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:30 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> * H. J. Lu:
>>
>> > Executables with DT_RELR will crash mysteriously with glibc binaries
>> > without DT_RELR support.  Bump EI_ABIVERSION won't prevent crash since
>> > the Linux kernel loader doesn't check EI_ABIVERSION on executables.
>> > Adding a glibc version dependency on the first glibc version with
>> > DT_RELR support will prevent backporting DT_RELR support to released
>> > glibc branches.
>> >
>> > Add a GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version as a proxy for DT_RELR support in glibc.
>> > Linker should add the GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version dependency on binaries
>> > with DT_RELR.  GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR should be backported together when
>> > backporting DT_RELR support.
>>
>> I don't like it.  What's wrong about EI_ABIVERSION?
>
> Bumping EI_ABIVERSION on executables doesn't prevent crashes
> with existing ld.so binaries.

Oh, right, I keep forgetting that.

If we do not intend to backport features that require an EI_ABIVERSION
bump back further than glibc 2.34, we can rely on the __libc_start_main
switch to the GLIBC_2.34 symbol version.

Thanks,
Florian


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* Re: [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR
  2021-11-19 22:47     ` Florian Weimer
@ 2021-11-20  2:55       ` H.J. Lu
  2021-11-22 18:21         ` Joseph Myers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: H.J. Lu @ 2021-11-20  2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Florian Weimer; +Cc: GNU C Library, Adhemerval Zanella

On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 2:47 PM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> * H. J. Lu:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:30 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> * H. J. Lu:
> >>
> >> > Executables with DT_RELR will crash mysteriously with glibc binaries
> >> > without DT_RELR support.  Bump EI_ABIVERSION won't prevent crash since
> >> > the Linux kernel loader doesn't check EI_ABIVERSION on executables.
> >> > Adding a glibc version dependency on the first glibc version with
> >> > DT_RELR support will prevent backporting DT_RELR support to released
> >> > glibc branches.
> >> >
> >> > Add a GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version as a proxy for DT_RELR support in glibc.
> >> > Linker should add the GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR version dependency on binaries
> >> > with DT_RELR.  GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR should be backported together when
> >> > backporting DT_RELR support.
> >>
> >> I don't like it.  What's wrong about EI_ABIVERSION?
> >
> > Bumping EI_ABIVERSION on executables doesn't prevent crashes
> > with existing ld.so binaries.
>
> Oh, right, I keep forgetting that.

What is wrong with GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR?

> If we do not intend to backport features that require an EI_ABIVERSION
> bump back further than glibc 2.34, we can rely on the __libc_start_main
> switch to the GLIBC_2.34 symbol version.
>

GLIBC_2.34 is no better than GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR.

-- 
H.J.

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* Re: [PATCH] Add GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR as proxy for DT_RELR
  2021-11-20  2:55       ` H.J. Lu
@ 2021-11-22 18:21         ` Joseph Myers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Joseph Myers @ 2021-11-22 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: H.J. Lu; +Cc: Florian Weimer, GNU C Library

On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha wrote:

> What is wrong with GLIBC_PRIVATE_RELR?

We shouldn't have any GLIBC_PRIVATE* references in normal user binaries 
built with glibc; GLIBC_PRIVATE* should be considered a namespace limited 
to internal use between the various binaries built by glibc, and with no 
ABI stability requirements.

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
joseph@codesourcery.com

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