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From: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	"Fāng-ruì Sòng" <maskray@google.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] elf: Support DT_RELR relative relocation format [BZ #27924]
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:53:14 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b6d5e23f-063a-1057-28c7-3dfd43525238@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2ec94948-f730-94f5-5df1-2de5cc71bb71@redhat.com>



On 29/10/2021 16:35, Carlos O'Donell via Binutils wrote:
> On 10/29/21 14:38, Fāng-ruì Sòng wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:21 AM Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/16/21 20:50, Fangrui Song via Binutils wrote:
>>>> PIE and shared objects usually have many relative relocations. In
>>>> 2017/2018, SHT_RELR/DT_RELR was proposed on
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/generic-abi/c/bX460iggiKg/m/GxjM0L-PBAAJ
>>>> ("Proposal for a new section type SHT_RELR") and is a pre-standard. RELR
>>>> usually takes 3% or smaller space than R_*_RELATIVE relocations. The
>>>> virtual memory size of a mostly statically linked PIE is typically 5~10%
>>>> smaller.
>>>
>>> We've been going over this patch on the weekly Monday patch queue review.
>>>
>>> I took a note to point out that one of the blockers here is that it is difficult
>>> to immediately test this work because it requires a working glibc build using
>>> ldd (which has support for DT_RELR).
>>
>> No:) There may be a misunderstanding.
>>
>> To test the feature: a DT_RELR executable is needed.
>> Currently only ld.lld --pack-dyn-relocs=relr supports generating
>> DT_RELR binaries,
>> but glibc itself does not need to be linked with ld.lld.
> 
> This is true.
> 
> However, running the entire testsuite with ld.lld and DT_RELR gives wider coverage
> and improves confidence in the feature.
> 
>> If the patch is accepted, GNU ld built glibc will support DT_RELR
>> programs linked by ld.lld.
> 
> I agree, but in that scenario, lacking the ability to link the entire testsuite
> with ld.lld reduces testing coverage for the feature.
> 
>>> What is the status of the lld support patches for glibc?
>>
>> aarch64 and x86-64 work well for me.
> 
> ... but they aren't yet committed?
> 
> Do we have a patchwork series for them?
> 
> https://patchwork.sourceware.org/project/glibc/list/?series=4199
> 
>> Seems that Adhemerval may be interested in adding a lld configuration
>> to scripts/build-many-glibcs.py
> 
> checking version of ld... 12.0.1, bad
> ...
> configure: error: 
> *** These critical programs are missing or too old: LLD
> *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.
> 
> What's the fix for this?


I summarized the previous status of glibc plus lld on [1].  In a short,
only x86_64, i686, and aarch64 works without testcase regressions (i686
does show one regression, elf/ifuncmain6pie).  I am working on arm,
I could get it build and having the testcase without only 11 regression
(all of them related to ifunc). I plan to send the patches soon.

The powerpc builds but either loader or libc fails to run.  The riscv
also builds with an extra patch to set -mno-relax (to avoid R_RISCV_ALIGN
generation since lld does not support it), but I didn't not actually
test if works as expected.

The other supported architectures, sparc64 and mips, seems to be broken
and it would require much more work.

[1] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2021-October/132315.html

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29 19:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-17  0:50 Fangrui Song
2021-10-18 14:42 ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 16:16   ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-18 17:28     ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 18:15       ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-18 18:27         ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 19:19           ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-18 19:44             ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 20:11               ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-18 21:10                 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-18 22:27                   ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 22:30                     ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-18 22:42                       ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 23:00                         ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-18 23:36                           ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 23:44                             ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-19  1:05                               ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-18 19:21       ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-18 19:45         ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-29 18:21 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-10-29 18:36   ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-29 19:15     ` Fangrui Song
2021-10-29 18:38   ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-10-29 19:35     ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-10-29 19:53       ` Adhemerval Zanella [this message]
2021-11-01  4:50         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng

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