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From: "Zack Weinberg" <zack@owlfolio.org>
To: "'Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)'" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"GNU libc development" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Cc: "Alejandro Colomar" <alx@kernel.org>,
	'linux-man' <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Bastien Roucariès" <rouca@debian.org>,
	"Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Puiu" <stefan.puiu@gmail.com>,
	"Igor Sysoev" <igor@sysoev.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] socket: Implement sockaddr_storage with an anonymous union
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 13:04:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d77b529d-e54d-4919-87a4-d90fd816ba8b@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230120134043.10247-1-alx@kernel.org>

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, at 8:40 AM, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> The historical design of `sockaddr_storage` makes it impossible to use
> without breaking strict aliasing rules.  Not only this type is unusable,
> but even the use of other `sockaddr_*` structures directly (when the
> programmer only cares about a single address family) is also incorrect,
> since at some point the structure will be accessed as a `sockaddr`, and
> that breaks strict aliasing rules too.
>
> So, the only way for a programmer to not invoke Undefined Behavior is to
> declare a union that includes `sockaddr` and any `sockaddr_*` structures
> that are of interest, which allows later accessing as either the correct
> structure or plain `sockaddr` for the sa_family.

...

>     struct new_sockaddr_storage  nss;
>
>     // ... (initialize oss and nss)
>
>     inet_sockaddr2str(&nss.sa);  // correct (and has no casts)

I think we need to move slowly here and be _sure_ that any proposed change
does in fact reduce the amount of UB.  This construct, in particular, might
not actually be correct in practice: see https://godbolt.org/z/rn51cracn for
a case where, if I'm reading it right, the compiler assumes that a write
through a `struct fancy *` cannot alter the values accessible through a
`struct simple *` even though both pointers point into the same union.
(Test case provided by <https://stackoverflow.com/users/363751/supercat>;
I don't know any other identifier for them.)

zw

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-20 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-20 13:40 Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-20 17:49 ` Joseph Myers
2023-01-20 19:26   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-20 18:04 ` Zack Weinberg [this message]
2023-01-20 19:25   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-21  2:38     ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-21  3:17       ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-21 13:30         ` Bastien Roucariès
2023-01-21 14:30           ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-22 14:12             ` Bastien Roucariès
2023-01-20 20:32 ` Bastien Roucariès
2023-01-20 20:38   ` Alejandro Colomar
2023-01-20 20:46     ` Bastien Roucariès
2023-01-20 20:51       ` Alejandro Colomar

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