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From: Alexandre Bique <bique.alexandre@gmail.com>
To: libc-help@sourceware.org
Subject: Yield to specific thread?
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 12:42:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAP737o+pyjscAYZSjWHDvs+R6b0hJwDhY-h=G9RZk9_O8jMWXA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Hi,

I'm working on a soft real-time problem, for audio processing.

We have 2 processes A and B.
A produces a request, B processes it and produces a response, A consumes it.

The whole thing is synchronous so it looks like
   result = process(request);
except that we execute the process function in another process for
isolation purposes.

Right now, we put everything into SHM, and A writes a lightweight request
into a pipe which B is blocking on using read(); and another pipe to notify
A about the result.

On the papers this approach works but in practice we are facing scheduling
issues.
I read some of the Linux kernel and if I understood correctly the kernel
does not schedule right away the threads waiting on I/O but put them in a
wake up queue, and they will be woken up by the scheduler on the next
scheduler_tick() which depends on the scheduler tick frequency. On a low
latency kernel the frequency is about 1000Hz which is not too bad, but on
most desktops it is lower than that, and it produces jitter.

I found that locking a mutex may schedule the mutex owner immediately.

Ideally I'd like to do:
A produces a request
A sched_yield_to(B)
B processes the request
B sched_yield_to(A)

In a way the execution of A and B is exclusive, we achieve it by waiting on
pipe read.
I did not find a good design to do it using mutexes and I am looking for
help.

I tried a design with two mutexes but it will race and deadlock. I can
share the sequence diagram if you want.

Thank you very much,
Alexandre Bique

             reply	other threads:[~2021-05-20 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-20 10:42 Alexandre Bique [this message]
2021-05-20 11:02 ` Florian Weimer
2021-05-20 11:09   ` Alexandre Bique
2021-05-20 11:20     ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2021-05-20 11:54       ` Alexandre Bique
2021-05-25 18:21         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-05-26  9:36           ` Tadeus Prastowo
2021-05-26 14:09           ` Alexandre Bique
2021-05-20 12:27 ` Godmar Back

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