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* [Bug localedata/15260] New: various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES
@ 2013-03-09 11:41 daxim at cpan dot org
  2014-06-13 19:15 ` [Bug localedata/15260] " fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: daxim at cpan dot org @ 2013-03-09 11:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

             Bug #: 15260
           Summary: various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr
                    LC_MESSAGES
           Product: glibc
           Version: 2.16
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
        AssignedTo: unassigned@sourceware.org
        ReportedBy: daxim@cpan.org
                CC: libc-locales@sourceware.org
    Classification: Unclassified


Created attachment 6922
  --> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=6922
Perl tool for dumping LC_MESSAGES from the system glibc-locale installation

1. In the locales brx_IN, hne_IN, kok_IN, ml_IN, ta_IN, ta_LK and uk_UA, the
yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES match against the whole answer word, or all letters of
the answer word, but should only include the initial.

2. In the ht_HT locale, the yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES do not include capital
letters, but should include capital letters.

3. In the km_KH locale, the yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES are in English, but should
be in Khmer.

4. In the mr_IN locale, the yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES match full English
words, but should be initials in Marathi.

5. In the ms_MY locale, the noexpr LC_MESSAGES does not include the customary
[nN] from English, even though there is no apparent conflict. According to
<http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82#c3>, this makes it "hard to
use the locale when translations are missing". A comment in the source file
says "% ^[nN]  --> ^[tT]", but that's not really illuminating. A Malay speaker
needs to verify this.

6. In the mt_MT locale, the yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES match full English
words, but should be initials in Malti.

7. In the nan_TW@latin locale, the yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES do not include
the customary [yY]/[nN] from English, even though there is no conflict.
According to <http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=82#c3>, this makes
it "hard to use the locale when translations are missing".

8. The os_RU yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES look broken. It doesn't make sense that
yesexpr includes capital У and noexpr includes small у. They also include
initials in Russian, but should be in Ossetic.

9. In the tg_TJ locale, the yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES are in Russian, but should
be in Tajik.

10. In the tl_PH locale, the yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES are in English, should be
in Tagalog.

11. In the tt_RU locale, the yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES include initials in
Russian, but should be in Tatar.

12. In the ug_CN locale, the yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES are in English, but
should be in Uyghur. The yesexpr/noexpr need to be then changed, too.

13. In the zh_SG locale, the yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES are in English, should be
in Chinese.

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* [Bug localedata/15260] various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES
  2013-03-09 11:41 [Bug localedata/15260] New: various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES daxim at cpan dot org
@ 2014-06-13 19:15 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
  2016-04-15 21:26 ` [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors vapier at gentoo dot org
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2014-06-13 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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              Flags|                            |security-

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* [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors
  2013-03-09 11:41 [Bug localedata/15260] New: various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES daxim at cpan dot org
  2014-06-13 19:15 ` [Bug localedata/15260] " fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2016-04-15 21:26 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
  2016-04-23  8:06 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
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From: vapier at gentoo dot org @ 2016-04-15 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

Mike Frysinger <vapier at gentoo dot org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Summary|various errors in the       |LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,ex
                   |yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr |pr}: various errors
                   |LC_MESSAGES                 |

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* [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors
  2013-03-09 11:41 [Bug localedata/15260] New: various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES daxim at cpan dot org
  2014-06-13 19:15 ` [Bug localedata/15260] " fweimer at redhat dot com
  2016-04-15 21:26 ` [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors vapier at gentoo dot org
@ 2016-04-23  8:06 ` vapier at gentoo dot org
  2017-10-21  8:27 ` maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
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From: vapier at gentoo dot org @ 2016-04-23  8:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

--- Comment #1 from Mike Frysinger <vapier at gentoo dot org> ---
pretty much all of the yesstr/nostr issues should be fixed in git now.  all of
the yesexpr/noexpr issues related to missing yY and nN were handled via bug
15262.

that just leaves the few cases of yesexpr/noexpr misbehavior outlined in:
(1) (4) (6) (8) (9) (10) (12) (13)

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* [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

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* [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors
  2013-03-09 11:41 [Bug localedata/15260] New: various errors in the yesstr/nostr/yesexpr/noexpr LC_MESSAGES daxim at cpan dot org
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  2017-10-27  9:28 ` maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
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From: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com @ 2017-10-27  8:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

--- Comment #2 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
(In reply to daxim from comment #0)
> Created attachment 6922 [details]
> Perl tool for dumping LC_MESSAGES from the system glibc-locale installation
> 
> 1. In the locales brx_IN, hne_IN, kok_IN, ml_IN, ta_IN, ta_LK and uk_UA, the
> yesstr/nostr LC_MESSAGES match against the whole answer word, or all letters
> of the answer word, but should only include the initial.

In case of uk_UA, there is a special reason for this, see the comments
in the locale source:


LC_MESSAGES
% WARNING: symbols "Y" and "Cyrillic_N" are placed at one key in Ukrainian
keyboard
% layout although the meaning is semantically opposite ("Y" stands for "Yes"
% while "Cyrillic_N" stands for "No").
%
% This problem may be dealt with by requiring at least two letters to be
% entered in Ukrainian language.

% A regular expression that describes possible yes-responses
% "y", "Y", "+", "ta" or "tak" in Cyrillic
yesexpr "^([+1Yy]|[Тт][Аа][Кк]?)$"

% WARNING: symbols "N" and "Cyrillic_T" are placed at one key in Ukrainian
% keyboard layout although the meaning is semantically opposite ("N" stands for
% "No" while "Cyrillic_T" stands for "Yes").
%
% We may require two Ukrainian letters as input to deal with this potential
% problem.

% A regular expression that describes possible no-responses.
% "n", "N", "-" or word "ni" in Cyrillic
noexpr  "^([-0Nn]|[Нн][Іі])$"

% Output string for ``yes'' ("tak").
yesstr "так"

% Output string for ``no'' ("ni").
nostr "ні"

END LC_MESSAGES

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* [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors
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commit a4cc02c7413af4826fe8d13b6250c3fc47f15699
Author: Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri Oct 27 10:55:44 2017 +0200

    tt_RU locale: make yesstr and nostr agree with CLDR by starting with lower
case letters

        * localedata/locales/tt_RU (LC_MESSAGES): Start yesstr and nostr
        with lowercase letters to make it agree with CLDR.

https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git;h=1e5971ec1452784d6cb59539442d92b7020378d5

commit 1e5971ec1452784d6cb59539442d92b7020378d5
Author: Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri Oct 27 10:53:35 2017 +0200

    Fix all remaining issues of [BZ #15260]

        [BZ #15260]
        * localedata/locales/doi_IN (LC_MESSAGES): Match only for the
        first letters of yesstr and nostr in yesexpr and noexpr,
        not for the full words.
        * localedata/locales/hne_IN (LC_MESSAGES): Likewise.
        * localedata/locales/kok_IN (LC_MESSAGES): Likewise.
        * localedata/locales/mr_IN (LC_MESSAGES): Likewise.
        * localedata/locales/sat_IN (LC_MESSAGES): Likewise.
        * localedata/locales/km_KH (LC_MESSAGES): Match also for the
        first letters of yesstr and nostr in yesexpr and noexpr,
        until now only English was matched in yesexpr and noexpr.
        * localedata/locales/tl_PH (LC_MESSAGES): Use “copy "fil_PH"”
        instead of “copy "en_US"”. CLDR has yesstr and nostr data for
        fil but not for tl. As tl and fil are very similar, using fil
        is probably better than using English.

https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=glibc.git;h=bc5fc7de2115847d9ed312a41713c6a4c724f3dd

commit bc5fc7de2115847d9ed312a41713c6a4c724f3dd
Author: Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
Date:   Fri Oct 27 09:38:00 2017 +0200

    br_FR locale: Use all lowercase in yesstr and nostr.

        [BZ #21706]
        * localedata/locales/br_FR (LC_MESSAGES): Use all lowercase
        in yesstr and nostr.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Summary of changes:
 ChangeLog                 |   29 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 localedata/locales/br_FR  |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/doi_IN |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/hne_IN |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/km_KH  |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/kok_IN |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/mr_IN  |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/sat_IN |    4 ++--
 localedata/locales/tl_PH  |    2 +-
 localedata/locales/tt_RU  |    4 ++--
 10 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-)

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* [Bug localedata/15260] LC_MESSAGES.{yes,no}{str,expr}: various errors
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From: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com @ 2017-10-27  9:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15260

Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |FIXED
   Target Milestone|---                         |2.27

--- Comment #4 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
All remaining issues are fixed now in glibc master.

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