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* [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
@ 2017-11-21  9:53 digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
  2017-11-21  9:54 ` [Bug localedata/22470] " digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
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From: digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com @ 2017-11-21  9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

            Bug ID: 22470
           Summary: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and
                    noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
           Product: glibc
           Version: unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: localedata
          Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
          Reporter: digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
                CC: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
  Target Milestone: ---

Same as we have added "yY" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr in all locales
(unless this is conflicting) because we assume that some people may be used to
English language and involuntarily may press Y or N rather than their localized
version, I suggest to add "дД" (Cyrillic "dD") and "нН" (Cyrillic "nN") to
every local language of Russia, which means all *_RU locales.  Of course the
same applies to every ru_* locale but most probably they already contain their
proper characters.

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* [Bug localedata/22470] Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
  2017-11-21  9:53 [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
@ 2017-11-21  9:54 ` digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
  2018-09-07 22:12 ` ldv at sourceware dot org
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From: digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com @ 2017-11-21  9:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

Rafal Luzynski <digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com> changed:

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* [Bug localedata/22470] Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
  2017-11-21  9:53 [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
  2017-11-21  9:54 ` [Bug localedata/22470] " digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
@ 2018-09-07 22:12 ` ldv at sourceware dot org
  2024-01-05 10:21 ` maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
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From: ldv at sourceware dot org @ 2018-09-07 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

Dmitry V. Levin <ldv at sourceware dot org> changed:

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* [Bug localedata/22470] Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
  2017-11-21  9:53 [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
  2017-11-21  9:54 ` [Bug localedata/22470] " digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
  2018-09-07 22:12 ` ldv at sourceware dot org
@ 2024-01-05 10:21 ` maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
  2024-01-05 10:27 ` maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
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From: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com @ 2024-01-05 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

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           Assignee|unassigned at sourceware dot org   |maiku.fabian at gmail dot com

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* [Bug localedata/22470] Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
  2017-11-21  9:53 [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
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  2024-01-05 10:21 ` maiku.fabian at gmail dot com
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From: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com @ 2024-01-05 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

--- Comment #1 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
I talked about this with a Russian friend. He didn‘t even like that the ru_RU
locale has "дД"  and "нН" in the yesexpr and noexpr. He wrote:

> Especially funny is the fact, that the Cyrillic Н (нет=no) is usually on the same key as latin Y (yes=да) — so please never translate Y/N

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* [Bug localedata/22470] Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
  2017-11-21  9:53 [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
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From: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com @ 2024-01-05 10:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

--- Comment #2 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
In the ru_RU locale, "дД"  and "нН" have been there "forever" so I think I
should better not touch it. But adding it to all other *_RU locales might cause
more problems than it solves. 

Currently we have: 

mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/glibc/localedata/locales (master $%)
$ grep expr *_RU | glibc-locale-convert.py -u
ce_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yYДд]"
ce_RU:noexpr  "^[-0nNМм]"
cv_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yY]"
cv_RU:noexpr  "^[-0nN]"
mhr_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yYТт]"
mhr_RU:noexpr  "^[-0nNУу]"
os_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yYуУ]"
os_RU:noexpr  "^[-0nNнН]"
ru_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yYДд]"
ru_RU:noexpr  "^[-0nNНн]"
sah_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yYдДэЭ]"
sah_RU:noexpr "^[-0nNнНсС]"
tt_RU:yesexpr "^[+1yYәӘ]"
tt_RU:noexpr  "^[-0nNюЮ]"
mfabian@hathi:/local/mfabian/src/glibc/localedata/locales (master $%)
$

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* [Bug localedata/22470] Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia
  2017-11-21  9:53 [Bug localedata/22470] New: Suggestion: Add Cyrillic "dD" and "nN" to yesexpr and noexpr respectively to every locale in Russia digitalfreak at lingonborough dot com
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From: maiku.fabian at gmail dot com @ 2024-01-05 11:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22470

Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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         Resolution|---                         |WORKSFORME
             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED

--- Comment #3 from Mike FABIAN <maiku.fabian at gmail dot com> ---
Closing as WORKSFORME because I think the current state is OK until users of
these locales tell us otherwise.

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