* [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
@ 2021-01-12 16:20 sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:22 ` [Bug localedata/27174] " sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (11 more replies)
0 siblings, 12 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com @ 2021-01-12 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
Bug ID: 27174
Summary: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
Product: glibc
Version: unspecified
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: localedata
Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
Reporter: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
CC: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
Target Milestone: ---
I ran across an issue with CLDR v38 that may affect the
unicode-cldr-core package. (I believe the latest package used is v32 but
it's worth being aware of this issue.)
One of the changes is for en_GB to change the date abbreviation for
"September" from "Sep" to "Sept". This will break software that is
relying on locale information to parse or generate dates, and may also
break any formatting that expects 3-letter months.
A thread which discusses how it affects a DateTime::Local perl module is
at https://groups.perlists.pm/sympa/arc/london.pm/2021-01/msg00007.html
but I imagine this will affect anything that relies on CLDR data.
I have reported the issue to the Unicode group at
https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-14412
I have also noted the bug on the Ubuntu Translators list at
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2021-January/007729.html
where I was referred to here.
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
@ 2021-01-12 16:22 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:27 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
` (10 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com @ 2021-01-12 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #1 from Roibert Rothenberg <sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com> ---
Apologies. The text in the bug report was cut-and-paste from the ubuntu
translators list. It affects glibc.
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:22 ` [Bug localedata/27174] " sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
@ 2021-01-12 16:27 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 16:31 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (9 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-01-12 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Flags| |security-
Ever confirmed|0 |1
Last reconfirmed| |2021-01-12
Status|UNCONFIRMED |WAITING
CC| |fweimer at redhat dot com
--- Comment #2 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
As far as I can see, we do not use “Sept“ in any of the en_* locales in glibc,
and never have.
Why do you think this is a glibc bug?
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:22 ` [Bug localedata/27174] " sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:27 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2021-01-12 16:31 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:35 ` gunnarhj at ubuntu dot com
` (8 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com @ 2021-01-12 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #3 from Roibert Rothenberg <sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #2)
> As far as I can see, we do not use “Sept“ in any of the en_* locales in
> glibc, and never have.
>
> Why do you think this is a glibc bug?
This was a recommendation from the ubuntu translators list.
Isn't strftime part of glibc?
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 16:31 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
@ 2021-01-12 16:35 ` gunnarhj at ubuntu dot com
2021-01-12 16:36 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
` (7 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: gunnarhj at ubuntu dot com @ 2021-01-12 16:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #4 from Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj at ubuntu dot com> ---
Florian,
I was the one who suggested to bring this the glibc maintainers' attention. A
while ago the localedata in glibc were adapted to CLDR. Possibly that is
history.
But in any case, this kind of dissonance between CLDR/Unicode and locale data
doesn't feel healthy and may cause issues going forward.
Maybe it's not exactly a glibc bug at this time...
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 16:35 ` gunnarhj at ubuntu dot com
@ 2021-01-12 16:36 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 16:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
` (6 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-01-12 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #5 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
A function called strftime is part of glibc, but the strftime used in the
report doesn't seem to call it:
https://metacpan.org/pod/DateTime#$dt-%3Estrftime(-$format,-...-)
https://github.com/houseabsolute/DateTime.pm/blob/d67ef93e1a5c31ec2fa1d0d4a06ca86b5073a048/lib/DateTime.pm#L1178
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (4 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 16:36 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2021-01-12 16:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 16:39 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (5 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-01-12 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #6 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
I do not see Sept in CLDR: https://st.unicode.org/cldr-apps/v#/en_GB/Gregorian/
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (5 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 16:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2021-01-12 16:39 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:40 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (4 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com @ 2021-01-12 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #7 from Roibert Rothenberg <sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com> ---
I was posting this to point out that CLDR v38 has this issue, if/when strftime
is updated to use that data,
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (6 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 16:39 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
@ 2021-01-12 16:40 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 17:06 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
` (3 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com @ 2021-01-12 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #8 from Roibert Rothenberg <sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com> ---
See https://github.com/unicode-org/cldr/blob/release-38/common/main/en_GB.xml
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (7 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 16:40 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
@ 2021-01-12 17:06 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 17:15 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (2 subsequent siblings)
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-01-12 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #9 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Ah, so this is basically a heads-up that CLDR 38 has some bogus data?
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (8 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 17:06 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2021-01-12 17:15 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 17:18 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-29 14:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com @ 2021-01-12 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #10 from Roibert Rothenberg <sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #9)
> Ah, so this is basically a heads-up that CLDR 38 has some bogus data?
Yes.
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (9 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 17:15 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
@ 2021-01-12 17:18 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-29 14:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-01-12 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
Status|WAITING |RESOLVED
--- Comment #11 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Thanks, I think we might spot this during review as part of the input even if
we forget about this bug.
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [Bug localedata/27174] CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
` (10 preceding siblings ...)
2021-01-12 17:18 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2021-01-29 14:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
11 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-01-29 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27174
--- Comment #12 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
I have changed my mind and do not consider switch to "Sept" as preposterous as
I initially indicated.
--
You are receiving this mail because:
You are on the CC list for the bug.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2021-01-29 14:39 UTC | newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages (download: mbox.gz / follow: Atom feed)
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2021-01-12 16:20 [Bug localedata/27174] New: CLDR v38 and en_GB date issues sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:22 ` [Bug localedata/27174] " sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:27 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 16:31 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:35 ` gunnarhj at ubuntu dot com
2021-01-12 16:36 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 16:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 16:39 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 16:40 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 17:06 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-12 17:15 ` sourceware at robrwo dot sent.com
2021-01-12 17:18 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
2021-01-29 14:39 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).