* [Bug localedata/28278] New: Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale
@ 2021-08-27 9:07 benedikt-straub at web dot de
2021-08-27 9:41 ` [Bug localedata/28278] " fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: benedikt-straub at web dot de @ 2021-08-27 9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28278
Bug ID: 28278
Summary: Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale
Product: glibc
Version: 2.33
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: localedata
Assignee: unassigned at sourceware dot org
Reporter: benedikt-straub at web dot de
CC: libc-locales at sourceware dot org
Target Milestone: ---
Hi,
I'm using Ubuntu MATE 21.04 with the Low German (nds_DE) system locale. With
the default settings for this locale I'm unable to type non-ASCII characters
such as äöüß in many applications.
The cause appears to be that /usr/share/i18n/locales/nds_DE defines LC_CTYPE to
en_DK which looks very weird. Manually exporting LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 fixes the
bug for me.
I don't see why this is not the default setting. Most other LC_* variables use
the de_DE definition by default in nds_DE. Is this a bug, or is there a reason
why it's done this way?
Best regards and thanks in advance :)
---
P.S. I hope this is the right place for this topic; if not, please feel free to
point out where this belongs. The ubuntu package search told me my locales are
provided by the package `locales` which is provided by package `glibc` version
`2.33-0ubuntu5`. Original question was at
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+question/698525.
P.P.S. I'm also surprised that the locale definition uses the localized
language name "Neddersass'sch" although "Plattdüütsch" and "Plattdütsch" are
far more common forms. Nice to speak a language that can't decide on it's own
name. But that just as a side note :) Should I open a separate bug report for
this?
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* [Bug localedata/28278] Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-08-27 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
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Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
What does this command show?
LC_ALL=nds_DE locale -k charmap
The expected output is:
charmap="UTF-8"
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* [Bug localedata/28278] Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale
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2021-08-27 9:41 ` [Bug localedata/28278] " fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-08-27 9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
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Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Last reconfirmed| |2021-08-27
Ever confirmed|0 |1
Status|UNCONFIRMED |WAITING
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* [Bug localedata/28278] Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale
2021-08-27 9:07 [Bug localedata/28278] New: Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale benedikt-straub at web dot de
2021-08-27 9:41 ` [Bug localedata/28278] " fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: benedikt-straub at web dot de @ 2021-08-27 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
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--- Comment #2 from Benedikt Straub <benedikt-straub at web dot de> ---
$ LC_ALL=nds_DE locale -k charmap
charmap="UTF-8"
$ LC_ALL=de_DE locale -k charmap
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
charmap="ANSI_X3.4-1968"
$ LC_ALL=C locale -k charmap
charmap="ANSI_X3.4-1968"
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* [Bug localedata/28278] Broken LC_CTYPE in nds_DE locale
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2021-08-27 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: libc-locales
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Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|WAITING |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
--- Comment #3 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
This looks good. It's possible that these applications do not recognize nds_DE
as a UTF-8 locale. They should use nl_langinfo (CODESET) to determine the
character set, but they probably use some other, ad-hoc mechanism.
I do not think this is a glibc bug, sorry.
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From: benedikt-straub at web dot de @ 2021-08-27 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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--- Comment #4 from Benedikt Straub <benedikt-straub at web dot de> ---
I assume the bug is probably in SDL2 then… I opened a new issue there:
https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/issues/4699
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