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From: Steven Munroe <munroesj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Torvald Riegel <triegel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Joseph S. Myers" <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	       Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	       Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@redhat.com>,
	libc-ports@sourceware.org,        libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: PI mutex support for pthread_cond_* now in nptl
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 18:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1361379598.19573.167.camel@spokane1.rchland.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361304381.581.80.camel@triegel.csb>

On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 21:06 +0100, Torvald Riegel wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 17:18 +0000, Joseph S. Myers wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2013, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > 
> > > Any chance we can move these macros into a generic linux header?
> > > Given that we're using INTERNAL_SYSCALL macros, the definitions ought to be
> > > the same for all targets.
> > 
> > Generally most of lowlevellock.h should probably be shared between 
> > architectures.  (If some architectures don't implement a particular 
> > feature as of a particular kernel version, that's a matter for 
> > kernel-features.h and __ASSUME_* conditionals.)
> 
> On a related note: What are the reasons to have arch-specific assembler
> versions of many of the synchronization operations?  I would be
> surprised if they'd provide a significant performance advantage; has
> anyone recent measurements for this?
> 
The introduction of GCC compiler builtins like __sync is fairly recent
and the new __atomic builtins start with GCC-4.7. So until recently we
had no choice. 

For platforms (like PowerPC) that implement acquire/release the GCC
__sync builtins are not sufficient and GCC-4.7 __atomic builtins are not
pervasive enough to make that the default. 

> It seems to me that it would be useful to consolidate the different
> versions that exist for the synchronization operations into shared C
> code as long as this doesn't make a significant performance difference.
> They are all based on atomic operations and futex operations, both of
> which we have in C code (especially if we have compilers that support
> the C11 memory model).  Or are there other reasons for keeping different
> versions that I'm not aware of?
> 
I disagree. The performance of lowlevellocks and associated platform
specific optimizations are too import to move forward with the
consolidation you suggest.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-20 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-18 10:56 Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-02-18 23:50 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-02-19  0:50   ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-02-19 16:42 ` Richard Henderson
2013-02-19 16:49   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-02-19 17:18   ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-02-19 17:21     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-02-19 20:06     ` Torvald Riegel
2013-02-20 18:13       ` Steven Munroe [this message]
2013-02-20 20:25         ` Torvald Riegel
2013-02-20 22:04           ` Roland McGrath
2013-02-20 22:41           ` Steven Munroe
2013-02-21  4:32           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
     [not found]     ` <1361304381.581.80.camel__6928.53579898856$1361304432$gmane$org@triegel.csb>
2013-02-22  4:11       ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] ` <5123AB55.2070100__45742.2411222526$1361292204$gmane$org@twiddle.net>
2013-02-19 17:01   ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-19 17:18     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-02-19 17:39       ` Andreas Schwab
2013-02-19 17:52         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar

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