From: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@redhat.com>
To: "Ondřej Bílka" <neleai@seznam.cz>
Cc: "Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
Will Newton <will.newton@linaro.org>,
"libc-ports@sourceware.org" <libc-ports@sourceware.org>,
Patch Tracking <patches@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysdeps/arm/armv7/multiarch/memcpy_impl.S: Improve performance.
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:43:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130904114529.GC4306@spoyarek.pnq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130904110333.GA6216@domone.kolej.mff.cuni.cz>
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 01:03:33PM +0200, OndÅej BÃlka wrote:
> > 1. Assume aligned input. Nothing should take (any noticeable)
> > performance away from align copies/moves
> Not very useful as this is extremely dependant on function measured. For
> functions like strcmp and strlen alignments are mostly random so aligned
> case does not say much. On opposite end of spectrum is memset which is
> almost always 8 byte aligned and unaligned performance does not make lot
> of sense.
Agreed. So for functions like memset/memcpy/memmove we heavily favour
aligned inputs. For strlen/strchr/memchr we strive for acceptable
average case performance, i.e. less variance in performance.
> > 2. Scale with size
> Not very important for several reasons. One is that big sizes are cold
> (just look in oprofile output that loops are less frequent than header.)
>
> Second reason is that if we look at caller large sizes are unlikely
> bottleneck.
I did not imply that we optimize for larger sizes - I meant that as a
general principle, the algorithm should scale reasonably for larger
sizes. A quadratic algorithm is bad even if it gives acceptable
performance for smaller sizes. I would consider that a pretty
important trait to monitor in the benchmark even if we won't really
get such implementations in practice.
> > 3. Provide acceptable performance for unaligned sizes without
> > penalizing the aligned case
>
> This is quite important case. It should be measured correctly, what is
> important is that alignment varies. This can be slower than when you
> pick fixed alignment and alignment varies in reality.
I agree that we need to measure unaligned cases correctly.
> > 4. Measure the effect of dcache pressure on function performance
> > 5. Measure effect of icache pressure on function performance.
> >
> Here you really need to base weigths on function usage patterns.
> A bigger code size is acceptable for functions that are called more
> often. You need to see distribution of how are calls clustered to get
> full picture. A strcmp is least sensitive to icache concerns, as when it
> is called its mostly 100 times over in tight loop so size is not big issue.
> If same number of call is uniformnly spread through program we need
> stricter criteria.
That's not necessarily true. It may be true for specific applications
but I don't think an strcmp is always called in a tight loop. Do you
have a qualitative argument to prove that statement or is it just
based on dry runs?
Siddhesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-04 11:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-08-12 7:55 Will Newton
2013-08-27 7:46 ` Will Newton
2013-08-30 17:14 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-08-30 18:48 ` Will Newton
2013-08-30 19:26 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-02 14:18 ` Will Newton
2013-09-03 16:14 ` Carlos O'Donell
[not found] ` <CANu=DmhA9QvSe6RS72Db2P=yyjC72fsE8d4QZKHEcNiwqxNMvw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-09-02 14:18 ` benchmark improvements (Was: Re: [PATCH] sysdeps/arm/armv7/multiarch/memcpy_impl.S: Improve performance.) Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-09-03 13:46 ` Will Newton
2013-09-03 17:48 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-02 19:57 ` [PATCH] sysdeps/arm/armv7/multiarch/memcpy_impl.S: Improve performance Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 16:18 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 17:37 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 17:52 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 18:57 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 19:15 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-04 7:27 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2013-09-04 11:03 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-04 11:43 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar [this message]
2013-09-04 17:37 ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-05 8:04 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-04 15:30 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-04 17:35 ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-05 11:07 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-05 11:54 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-09-03 19:34 ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-07 11:55 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 19:31 ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-03 19:54 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 20:56 ` Ryan S. Arnold
2013-09-03 23:29 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-09-03 23:31 ` Carlos O'Donell
2013-09-03 22:27 ` Ondřej Bílka
2013-08-29 23:58 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-08-30 14:56 ` Will Newton
2013-08-30 15:18 ` Joseph S. Myers
2013-08-30 18:46 ` Will Newton
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