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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Martin Uecker <ma.uecker@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin Uecker via Libffi-discuss <libffi-discuss@sourceware.org>,
	Anthony Green <green@moxielogic.com>
Subject: Re: wide function pointer type
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 11:10:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878ryoxdsn.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a037654009f49c7ede0e7357ac2fa0ec080f8da5.camel@gmail.com> (Martin Uecker's message of "Tue, 19 Oct 2021 14:13:12 +0200")

* Martin Uecker:

> One (of several) use cases is for language interoperability.
>
> A common problem is to pass a function of a high-level
> language as a callback to an C API.  This now often
> requires special boiler plate code for each case and
> there is no automatic way to do this. The fundamental
> problem is that the C type can not express that a data
> pointer belongs to a function pointer.
>
> void foo(
>   void (cb1)(void* data, int a), void* data1,
>   void* other_data);  
>
> Here a human (and maybe also a machine) could guess
> that data1 belongs to cb1 but not other_data.  But
> it is not clear and in more complicated cases
> even less so.
>
> void foo(void (_Wide cb1)(int a), void* other_data);
>
>
> With the new type that would be unambiguous (and 
> wrappers could then often be created automatically).
> At least for the C API one would also expect ABI
> stability.

I don't expect a lot of uptake for this.  One problem is the suggested
aggregate representation of wide function pointers.  It's not exactly
common for non-C implementations to implement those aspects of the
platform C ABI.  For many targets, even C and C++ compilers do not
always agree completely on the finer points.  Passing code and data
pointer in separate arguments is much more robust, and safely within the
interoperable ABI subset.

Perhaps a set of standard attributes to describe the explicit closure
argument would be useful, though.

Thanks,
Florian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-10 11:32 Martin Uecker
2021-10-17 23:35 ` Anthony Green
2021-10-18  5:33   ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-18  5:58     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-18  7:36       ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-18  7:56         ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-19  9:22           ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-19  9:43             ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-19 10:15               ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-19 12:13                 ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-20  8:24                   ` Kaz Kylheku (libffi)
2021-10-20 18:52                     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-20  9:10                   ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2021-10-20  9:21                     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-20  9:27                       ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-20 17:27                     ` Kaz Kylheku (libffi)
2021-10-21  9:48                       ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-10 17:01 Kaz Kylheku (libffi)
2021-10-10 17:44 ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-10 17:49   ` Daniel Colascione
2021-10-10 18:05     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-10 18:17       ` Daniel Colascione
2021-10-10 18:47         ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-10 18:57           ` Daniel Colascione
2021-10-10 19:24             ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-16  8:08               ` Jarkko Hietaniemi
2021-10-16  9:35                 ` Jarkko Hietaniemi
2021-10-10 18:31   ` Kaz Kylheku (libffi)

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