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From: Martin Uecker <ma.uecker@gmail.com>
To: Anthony Green <green@moxielogic.com>
Cc: libffi-discuss <libffi-discuss@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: wide function pointer type
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 07:33:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bee7417a7acc67e5af8aff710a1bd55c4d6baa6b.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACxje5_fSVRx4YRdDrwtOj5SsG-_cnSL6DGGxv_aOBM5P=x_dA@mail.gmail.com>


Hi Anthony,

Am Sonntag, den 17.10.2021, 19:35 -0400 schrieb Anthony Green:
> Hi Martin,
> 
>   I haven't read the whole proposal yet, but I'll try to this week.  I
> did, however, read the first paragraph, and it says:  "Trying to use
> regular function pointers for callbacks with data requires run-time
> code generation (e.g. nested functions in GCC or XL C, and closures in
> libffi [1]) but this is complex, inefficient, and problematic from a
> security point of view."
> 
>   This is no longer true for libffi on the important Linux platforms.
> We use static code templates that are placed in memory at a fixed,
> predetermined distance from the data they reference.  There is no
> runtime code generation.  Well, to be fair, perhaps it is still
> complex, but it's far more secure than before.
> 
>   Thanks for sharing.  I'm not a language expert, but I know others here are.

Thank you for your comments! I had to submit this to WG14 to meet
the deadline for C23. So the final version (so far) is here:

 http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg14/www/docs/n2787.pdf

Of course, it is still possible to modify the proposal later.

It is great to hear that libffi can create trampolines
without run-time code generation! We previously discussed
such an approach also for GCC, but nothing was implemented.


Martin


> AG
> 
> On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 7:32 AM Martin Uecker via Libffi-discuss
> <libffi-discuss@sourceware.org> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I will propose a wide function pointer type (actually
> > a wide function type) to WG14 for C23 as a common
> > type for callbacks, closures, which now require an
> > additional void pointer argument in C APIs. This
> > is intended to be compatible with ABIs with now
> > use a static chain register.
> > 
> > An early draft can be found here:
> > 
> > http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~muecker1/wide_v4.pdf
> > 
> > 
> > I thought you might be interested and I would love
> > to hear your feedback.
> > 
> > Martin
> > 
> > 
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-18  5:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-10 11:32 Martin Uecker
2021-10-17 23:35 ` Anthony Green
2021-10-18  5:33   ` Martin Uecker [this message]
2021-10-18  5:58     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-18  7:36       ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-18  7:56         ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-19  9:22           ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-19  9:43             ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-19 10:15               ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-19 12:13                 ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-20  8:24                   ` Kaz Kylheku (libffi)
2021-10-20 18:52                     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-20  9:10                   ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-20  9:21                     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-20  9:27                       ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-20 17:27                     ` Kaz Kylheku (libffi)
2021-10-21  9:48                       ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-10 17:01 Kaz Kylheku (libffi)
2021-10-10 17:44 ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-10 17:49   ` Daniel Colascione
2021-10-10 18:05     ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-10 18:17       ` Daniel Colascione
2021-10-10 18:47         ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-10 18:57           ` Daniel Colascione
2021-10-10 19:24             ` Martin Uecker
2021-10-16  8:08               ` Jarkko Hietaniemi
2021-10-16  9:35                 ` Jarkko Hietaniemi
2021-10-10 18:31   ` Kaz Kylheku (libffi)

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