[martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Chris Faylor]

This is the second message from Australia that I've gotten.  The other IP
address was 203.15.111.1 and they had a similar complaint.

Can anyone explain why these people are being blocked?

cgf

----- Forwarded message from Martin Schwenke <martins@linuxcare.com.au> -----

From: Martin Schwenke <martins@linuxcare.com.au>
To: postmaster@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS?  Who?  Us?  No!
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:33:52 +1000 (EST)

Hi!

One of our people got the failure notice that appears below.
Naturally, when I follow the ORBS verification link, I find that we're
not there!  We've never relayed...

Any ideas?

Thanks...

Regards,
Martin


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 15 Jul 2000 13:04:46 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@sourceware.cygnus.com
To: alan@linuxcare.com.au
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sourceware.cygnus.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<binutils@sourceware.cygnus.com>:
 
  In an effort to cut down on our spam intake we block email from
  certain lists and unfortunately you have just discovered the hard
  way that sometimes non-spam mail gets caught accidentally.
  In most cases you can clear this up by an upgrade to your mail
  server or sometimes by getting an erroneous listing removed.
  For more information about our use of these lists, see
        http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#rbls
 
  The IP number that I'm denying mail from is 203.29.91.49
  The list that you're on is ORBS.  See:
      http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=203.29.91.49
  for more information about this list and why you are on it.

-- 
Martin Schwenke,  System Administrator,  Linuxcare, Inc.
+61 2 6262 8990
martins@linuxcare.com,  http://linuxcare.com.au/
Linuxcare.  Support for the revolution.

----- End forwarded message -----

Re: [martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Jim Kingdon]

They are in the ORBS static list, read
http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html and the info on orbs.org.

Our scripts are buggy in that the bounce message should be clearer
about this (or we should just ignore listings on the ORBS static
list).

    panix$ nslookup 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
    Server:  localhost.panix.com
    Address:  127.0.0.1

    Name:    1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
    Address:  127.0.0.4

    panix$ 

203.29.91.49 has been removed since they sent that message (?):

    panix$ nslookup 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org
    Server:  localhost.panix.com
    Address:  127.0.0.1

    *** localhost.panix.com can't find 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org: Non-existent host/domain
    panix$ 

Re: [martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Chris Faylor]

Huh.  I didn't know about this but I get the same response to either
command: Non-existent host/domain.

Do you still get a positive from 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org?

cgf

On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:10:58PM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote:
>They are in the ORBS static list, read
> http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html and the info on orbs.org.
>
>Our scripts are buggy in that the bounce message should be clearer
>about this (or we should just ignore listings on the ORBS static
>list).
>
>    panix$ nslookup 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
>    Server:  localhost.panix.com
>    Address:  127.0.0.1
>
>    Name:    1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
>    Address:  127.0.0.4
>
>    panix$ 
>
>203.29.91.49 has been removed since they sent that message (?):
>
>    panix$ nslookup 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org
>    Server:  localhost.panix.com
>    Address:  127.0.0.1
>
>    *** localhost.panix.com can't find 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org: Non-existent host/domain
>    panix$ 

Re: [martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Jim Kingdon]

> Do you still get a positive from 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org?

Not any more (if I make sure to use one of the servers for
relays.orbs.org rather than get it from the cache - which means that
it was removed relatively recently).

Re: [martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Jim Kingdon]

They are in the ORBS static list, read
http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html and the info on orbs.org.

Our scripts are buggy in that the bounce message should be clearer
about this (or we should just ignore listings on the ORBS static
list).

    panix$ nslookup 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
    Server:  localhost.panix.com
    Address:  127.0.0.1

    Name:    1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
    Address:  127.0.0.4

    panix$ 

203.29.91.49 has been removed since they sent that message (?):

    panix$ nslookup 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org
    Server:  localhost.panix.com
    Address:  127.0.0.1

    *** localhost.panix.com can't find 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org: Non-existent host/domain
    panix$ 

[martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Chris Faylor]

This is the second message from Australia that I've gotten.  The other IP
address was 203.15.111.1 and they had a similar complaint.

Can anyone explain why these people are being blocked?

cgf

----- Forwarded message from Martin Schwenke <martins@linuxcare.com.au> -----

From: Martin Schwenke <martins@linuxcare.com.au>
To: postmaster@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS?  Who?  Us?  No!
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 10:33:52 +1000 (EST)

Hi!

One of our people got the failure notice that appears below.
Naturally, when I follow the ORBS verification link, I find that we're
not there!  We've never relayed...

Any ideas?

Thanks...

Regards,
Martin


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 15 Jul 2000 13:04:46 -0000
From: MAILER-DAEMON@sourceware.cygnus.com
To: alan@linuxcare.com.au
Subject: failure notice

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at sourceware.cygnus.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<binutils@sourceware.cygnus.com>:
 
  In an effort to cut down on our spam intake we block email from
  certain lists and unfortunately you have just discovered the hard
  way that sometimes non-spam mail gets caught accidentally.
  In most cases you can clear this up by an upgrade to your mail
  server or sometimes by getting an erroneous listing removed.
  For more information about our use of these lists, see
        http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html#rbls
 
  The IP number that I'm denying mail from is 203.29.91.49
  The list that you're on is ORBS.  See:
      http://www.orbs.org/verify.cgi?address=203.29.91.49
  for more information about this list and why you are on it.

-- 
Martin Schwenke,  System Administrator,  Linuxcare, Inc.
+61 2 6262 8990
martins@linuxcare.com,  http://linuxcare.com.au/
Linuxcare.  Support for the revolution.

----- End forwarded message -----

Re: [martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Chris Faylor]

Huh.  I didn't know about this but I get the same response to either
command: Non-existent host/domain.

Do you still get a positive from 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org?

cgf

On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 09:10:58PM -0400, Jim Kingdon wrote:
>They are in the ORBS static list, read
> http://sources.redhat.com/lists.html and the info on orbs.org.
>
>Our scripts are buggy in that the bounce message should be clearer
>about this (or we should just ignore listings on the ORBS static
>list).
>
>    panix$ nslookup 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
>    Server:  localhost.panix.com
>    Address:  127.0.0.1
>
>    Name:    1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org
>    Address:  127.0.0.4
>
>    panix$ 
>
>203.29.91.49 has been removed since they sent that message (?):
>
>    panix$ nslookup 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org
>    Server:  localhost.panix.com
>    Address:  127.0.0.1
>
>    *** localhost.panix.com can't find 49.91.29.203.relays.orbs.org: Non-existent host/domain
>    panix$ 

Re: [martins@linuxcare.com.au: [postmaster@sourceware] ORBS? Who? Us? No!]

[Jim Kingdon]

> Do you still get a positive from 1.111.15.203.relays.orbs.org?

Not any more (if I make sure to use one of the servers for
relays.orbs.org rather than get it from the cache - which means that
it was removed relatively recently).