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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
@ 2023-06-26  6:32 fweimer at redhat dot com
  2023-06-26  8:59 ` [Bug Infrastructure/30586] " mark at klomp dot org
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-06-26  6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

            Bug ID: 30586
           Summary: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
           Product: sourceware
           Version: unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P2
         Component: Infrastructure
          Assignee: overseers at sourceware dot org
          Reporter: fweimer at redhat dot com
  Target Milestone: ---

I regularly receive notices such as this one:

“
From: gcc-cvs-request@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: confirm 21b5183595835e57a9f69d008b4b03889d4d8b91
To: fweimer@redhat.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2023 20:14:53 +0000 (2 days, 10 hours, 15 minutes ago)
Message-ID: <mailman.370.1687551293.1980521.gcc-cvs@gcc.gnu.org>

Your membership in the mailing list Gcc-cvs has been disabled due to
excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
23-Jun-2023.  You will not get any more messages from this list until
you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
this before your membership in the list is deleted.

To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond to this message
(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the confirmation page at
[…]
”

Could you provide copies of some of the bounce messages, so that I have
something report to Red Hat's IT team? Thanks.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2023-06-26  8:59 ` mark at klomp dot org
  2023-06-26  9:19 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-06-26  8:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |mark at klomp dot org
             Status|NEW                         |WAITING

--- Comment #1 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
Last 5 bounces from your address for messages to gcc-cvs.
You can lookup the actual messages using the message-id at
https://inbox.sourceware.org/message-id (without the <>)

Jun 22 00:17:35 server2 postfix/cleanup[1465874]: 6C2143858D28:
message-id=<20230622001731.01DBD3858D28@sourceware.org>
Jun 22 00:17:39 server2 postfix/smtp[1494132]: 6C2143858D28:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242]:25, delay=3.1,
delays=1.5/0/0.33/1.3, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[OMffJKnENt-jHgLbxJmymQ.us252] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Jun 24 00:17:25 server2 postfix/cleanup[287778]: B06963857704:
message-id=<20230624001721.CC60C3858C3A@sourceware.org>
Jun 24 00:17:27 server2 postfix/smtp[287799]: B06963857704:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.221]:25, delay=1.6,
delays=0.09/0.03/0.18/1.3, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.221] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[JQKHnL3mOiyaJcC7rM06yQ.us342] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Jun 24 00:50:09 server2 postfix/cleanup[364844]: 683C73858280:
message-id=<20230624005004.12F563858C3A@sourceware.org>
Jun 24 00:50:10 server2 postfix/smtp[367779]: 683C73858280:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[207.211.30.242]:25, delay=0.77,
delays=0.09/0/0.21/0.48, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[207.211.30.242] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[me9DxAtMP8GsF7Mr-iChBg.us625] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Jun 25 00:17:21 server2 postfix/cleanup[3167396]: B44613858412:
message-id=<20230625001708.5B7633858C62@sourceware.org>
Jun 25 00:17:23 server2 postfix/smtp[3173352]: B44613858412:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.141]:25, delay=0.88,
delays=0.09/0.02/0.19/0.57, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.141] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[xJbJfJiOOnSg8oGAoutBXA.us580] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Jun 26 00:17:56 server2 postfix/cleanup[3933939]: 215B03858415:
message-id=<20230626001751.AD88C3858D20@sourceware.org>
maillog:Jun 26 00:17:57 server2 postfix/smtp[3952116]: 215B03858415:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.221]:25, delay=0.91,
delays=0.09/0.02/0.29/0.51, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.221] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[plr9XUmcMt-7i2ar0u0zbQ.us618] (in reply to end of DATA command))

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
  2023-06-26  8:59 ` [Bug Infrastructure/30586] " mark at klomp dot org
@ 2023-06-26  9:19 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
  2023-07-02 12:17 ` mark at klomp dot org
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-06-26  9:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |fweimer at redhat dot com

--- Comment #2 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Thank you. I conveyed this data to the Red Hat It team under INC2656812.

I looked at my own logs, and one optimization you could make is to set the
outgoing EHLO argument to match what the PTR record says (it's currently
sourceware.org, while the PTR record says server2.sourceware.org). That
difference should not matter, though, because sourceware.org has the same IP
address.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
  2023-06-26  8:59 ` [Bug Infrastructure/30586] " mark at klomp dot org
  2023-06-26  9:19 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2023-07-02 12:17 ` mark at klomp dot org
  2023-07-02 12:49 ` mark at klomp dot org
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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-02 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #3 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #2)
> I looked at my own logs, and one optimization you could make is to set the
> outgoing EHLO argument to match what the PTR record says (it's currently
> sourceware.org, while the PTR record says server2.sourceware.org). That
> difference should not matter, though, because sourceware.org has the same IP
> address.

I set:
smtp_helo_name = server2.sourceware.org
But not a fan, since if we switch servers (server3.sourceware.org is a hot
spare) we will have to manually update this setting.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-02 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #4 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
BTW. It looks like you are still bouncing a lot of emails. Latest examples:

Jul  1 00:19:06 server2 postfix/cleanup[2542516]: 0B8563858C74:
message-id=<20230701001901.584A73858D33@sourceware.org>
Jul  1 00:19:06 server2 postfix/qmgr[2512863]: 0B8563858C74:
from=<gcc-cvs-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=13257, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul  1 00:19:07 server2 postfix/smtp[2549164]: 0B8563858C74:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.141]:25, delay=1.4,
delays=0.1/0.02/0.15/1.1, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.141] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[ZU1yncVgNNSxbZi6hnYcDA.us312] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Jul  1 23:22:27 server2 postfix/cleanup[1005089]: 5EBC33858C31:
message-id=<20230701232147.3265358-1-ibuclaw@gdcproject.org>
Jul  1 23:22:27 server2 postfix/qmgr[3930487]: 5EBC33858C31:
from=<gcc-patches-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=7073, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul  1 23:22:28 server2 postfix/smtp[996032]: 5EBC33858C31:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[207.211.30.221]:25, delay=0.72,
delays=0.09/0/0.2/0.44, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[207.211.30.221] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[OCmtIyD6O5Cf6XZUjrGo2w.us125] (in reply to end of DATA command))

Jul  2 00:17:20 server2 postfix/cleanup[1272615]: B0BA03858401:
message-id=<20230702001710.48D643858D35@sourceware.org>
Jul  2 00:17:20 server2 postfix/qmgr[3930487]: B0BA03858401:
from=<gcc-cvs-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=6476, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul  2 00:17:22 server2 postfix/smtp[1260274]: B0BA03858401:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[207.211.30.221]:25, delay=1.2,
delays=0.09/0/0.31/0.8, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[207.211.30.221] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[HMdfGDQ6PcuCuYcWfgkSlg.us157] (in reply to end of DATA command))

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-07-02 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #5 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to Mark Wielaard from comment #3)
> I set:
> smtp_helo_name = server2.sourceware.org
> But not a fan, since if we switch servers (server3.sourceware.org is a hot
> spare) we will have to manually update this setting.

The default ($myhostname) might be more appropriate, assuming that the system
host name is set to server2.sourceware.org and server3.sourceware.org.

I don't doubt that there are still many bounces. Mailman is still sending me
alerts about them.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
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                   ` (4 preceding siblings ...)
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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-02 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #6 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #5)
> The default ($myhostname) might be more appropriate, assuming that the
> system host name is set to server2.sourceware.org and server3.sourceware.org.

But $myhostname is set to sourceware.org. And $myhostname is used in a lot of
other places. So I don't want to change that. Is there a way to get the system
host name if $myhostname is explicitly set? Then we can set smtp_helo_name to
that. It isn't fully clear to me that this setting matters. In what way is the
helo name used for determining whether or not to bounce the message on your
side?

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
                   ` (5 preceding siblings ...)
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  2023-07-03 10:00 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: fche at redhat dot com @ 2023-07-02 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

Frank Ch. Eigler <fche at redhat dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 CC|                            |fche at redhat dot com

--- Comment #7 from Frank Ch. Eigler <fche at redhat dot com> ---
I don't think there's any RFC-compliance or spam-hygiene related benefit from
choosing one vs. any other DNS-level alias of the server.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
                   ` (6 preceding siblings ...)
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-07-03 10:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #8 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to Frank Ch. Eigler from comment #7)
> I don't think there's any RFC-compliance or spam-hygiene related benefit
> from choosing one vs. any other DNS-level alias of the server.

RFC 1123 section 5.2.5 comes to my mind (the “principal host domain” part), but
it says later on that a mismatch should not be treated as grounds for
rejection. It was just a stab in the dark about what caused the problem.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-07-05 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #9 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Could I please get another recent log snippet with bounces for
fweimer@redhat.com? Thanks.

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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-05 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #10 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #9)
> Could I please get another recent log snippet with bounces for
> fweimer@redhat.com? Thanks.

Sure, here are a couple to various mailinglist from earlier today. You should
be able to lookup each message through the message-id at
https://inbox.sourceware.org/<message-id> (without the <>)

Jul  5 15:13:19 server2 postfix/smtpd[1585444]: 523353857007:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul  5 15:13:19 server2 postfix/cleanup[1853814]: 523353857007:
message-id=<MR2P264MB0113D9EB0BE889E9A3DBBAF3CD2FA@MR2P264MB0113.FRAP264.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Jul  5 15:13:19 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 523353857007: DKIM-Signature field
added (s=default, d=gcc.gnu.org)
Jul  5 15:13:19 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 523353857007:
from=<gcc-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=14994, nrcpt=1 (queue
active)
Jul  5 15:13:20 server2 postfix/smtp[1502852]: 523353857007:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[207.211.30.221]:25, delay=0.95,
delays=0.1/0/0.23/0.62, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[207.211.30.221] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[aw388OUCPGa6lJC4uBUZCQ.us569] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul  5 15:13:20 server2 postfix/bounce[2085987]: 523353857007: sender
non-delivery notification: 4C8BD3857738
Jul  5 15:13:20 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 523353857007: removed

Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 postfix/smtpd[1285685]: 2628A3858421:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 postfix/cleanup[1503268]: 2628A3858421:
message-id=<20230705145727.2DFBF385773C@sourceware.org>
Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 2628A3858421: DKIM-Signature field
added (s=default, d=gcc.gnu.org)
Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 2628A3858421:
from=<gcc-cvs-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=14626, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 postfix/smtp[1499656]: 2628A3858421:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242]:25, delay=0.69,
delays=0.09/0/0.2/0.4, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[tehplEwkP9KG8nxtIavsog.us610] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 postfix/bounce[1541341]: 2628A3858421: sender
non-delivery notification: D264B3857738
Jul  5 14:57:30 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 2628A3858421: removed

Jul  5 13:56:09 server2 postfix/smtpd[782799]: 6C6C83858421:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul  5 13:56:09 server2 postfix/cleanup[809298]: 6C6C83858421:
message-id=<mptjzveqx7v.fsf@arm.com>
Jul  5 13:56:09 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 6C6C83858421: DKIM-Signature field
added (s=default, d=gcc.gnu.org)
Jul  5 13:56:09 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 6C6C83858421:
from=<gcc-patches-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=12663, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul  5 13:56:10 server2 postfix/smtp[804655]: 6C6C83858421:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242]:25, delay=0.67,
delays=0.09/0/0.15/0.43, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[mL4PO3RPPHatVNP7lRm5Xw.us18] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul  5 13:56:10 server2 postfix/bounce[804814]: 6C6C83858421: sender
non-delivery notification: 1EF673857341
Jul  5 13:56:10 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 6C6C83858421: removed

Jul  5 13:28:31 server2 postfix/smtpd[656398]: 994D2385734A:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul  5 13:28:31 server2 postfix/cleanup[728659]: 994D2385734A:
message-id=<20230705132827.EF1D63858C5E@sourceware.org>
Jul  5 13:28:31 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 994D2385734A: DKIM-Signature field
added (s=default, d=gcc.gnu.org)
Jul  5 13:28:31 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 994D2385734A:
from=<gcc-cvs-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=16716, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul  5 13:28:32 server2 postfix/smtp[742447]: 994D2385734A:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[207.211.30.141]:25, delay=0.8,
delays=0.09/0.02/0.26/0.43, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[207.211.30.141] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[7uZIJdc1PvWh-HC_Y4TZ8w.us541] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul  5 13:28:32 server2 postfix/bounce[742474]: 994D2385734A: sender
non-delivery notification: 6AEE43857C48
Jul  5 13:28:32 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 994D2385734A: removed

Jul  5 09:12:42 server2 postfix/smtpd[3401781]: 30D2F3853D17:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul  5 09:12:42 server2 postfix/cleanup[3513786]: 30D2F3853D17:
message-id=<5db1b3fde3a7e32d4ff27f8551ffd7b2.stefansf@linux.ibm.com>
Jul  5 09:12:42 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 30D2F3853D17: DKIM-Signature field
added (s=default, d=gcc.gnu.org)
Jul  5 09:12:42 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 30D2F3853D17:
from=<gcc-testresults-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=110699,
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Jul  5 09:12:43 server2 postfix/smtp[3492464]: 30D2F3853D17:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.141]:25, delay=1.5,
delays=0.1/0/0.18/1.2, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.141] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[qNXKt5YBPXOo1bsPWblNYQ.us106] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul  5 09:12:43 server2 postfix/bounce[3413932]: 30D2F3853D17: sender
non-delivery notification: AB9E938555B2
Jul  5 09:12:43 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 30D2F3853D17: removed

It would be great if you can somehow match them up with logs on your side with
an explanation why they were bounced.

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
  2023-06-26  6:32 [Bug Infrastructure/30586] New: More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions fweimer at redhat dot com
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  2023-07-10  7:24 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-09 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #11 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
It looks like no more "554 Email rejected due to security policies" bounces
have been seen for more than 2 days now. Could you confirm emails seem to be
flowing again to your address?

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-07-10  7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #12 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
(In reply to Mark Wielaard from comment #11)
> It looks like no more "554 Email rejected due to security policies" bounces
> have been seen for more than 2 days now. Could you confirm emails seem to be
> flowing again to your address?

I just received:

“
Your membership in the mailing list Gcc-patches has been disabled due
to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
10-Jul-2023. 
”

Any idea what bounces may have triggered this, and how far back they go?
Perhaps it's an actual spam rejection this time, which triggered Mailman into
action combined with the old bounces still stored in the system?

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
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  2023-07-10  7:24 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
@ 2023-07-10  8:31 ` mark at klomp dot org
  2023-07-14 11:34 ` mark at klomp dot org
  2023-07-14 11:43 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
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From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-10  8:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #13 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
(In reply to Florian Weimer from comment #12)
> (In reply to Mark Wielaard from comment #11)
> > It looks like no more "554 Email rejected due to security policies" bounces
> > have been seen for more than 2 days now. Could you confirm emails seem to be
> > flowing again to your address?
> 
> I just received:
> 
> “
> Your membership in the mailing list Gcc-patches has been disabled due
> to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> 10-Jul-2023. 
> ”
> 
> Any idea what bounces may have triggered this, and how far back they go?
> Perhaps it's an actual spam rejection this time, which triggered Mailman
> into action combined with the old bounces still stored in the system?

We are seeing the "554 Email rejected due to security policies" bounces again
since this morning. It does look like they are all from rivia.ai and it looks
like they contained HTML (which we strip):

Jul 10 07:06:50 server2 postfix/smtpd[3598137]: DD10B385770C:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul 10 07:06:50 server2 postfix/cleanup[3680702]: DD10B385770C:
message-id=<20230710070612.233168-1-juzhe.zhong@rivai.ai>
Jul 10 07:06:50 server2 opendkim[2238591]: DD10B385770C: no signing table match
for 'juzhe.zhong@rivai.ai'
Jul 10 07:06:50 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: DD10B385770C:
from=<gcc-patches-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=7145, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul 10 07:06:51 server2 postfix/smtp[3608734]: DD10B385770C:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.221]:25, delay=0.7,
delays=0.04/0/0.19/0.46, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-1.mimecast.com[205.139.110.221] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[mGbBKflfN8uXMSJVsvCU1A.us536] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul 10 07:06:51 server2 postfix/bounce[3680608]: DD10B385770C: sender
non-delivery notification: 955653857714
Jul 10 07:06:51 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: DD10B385770C: removed


Jul 10 07:58:37 server2 postfix/smtpd[3792379]: 72D7B385772C:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul 10 07:58:37 server2 postfix/cleanup[3929042]: 72D7B385772C:
message-id=<C551A4BF1C4C009C+202307101558111958855@rivai.ai>
Jul 10 07:58:37 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 72D7B385772C: no signing table match
for 'juzhe.zhong@rivai.ai'
Jul 10 07:58:37 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 72D7B385772C:
from=<gcc-patches-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=10877, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul 10 07:58:38 server2 postfix/smtp[3905172]: 72D7B385772C:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242]:25, delay=0.56,
delays=0.04/0/0.15/0.37, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[UQCPahAyNsmfwdfICb173Q.us448] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul 10 07:58:38 server2 postfix/bounce[3925775]: 72D7B385772C: sender
non-delivery notification: 07909385771C
Jul 10 07:58:38 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 72D7B385772C: removed


Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 postfix/smtpd[3924326]: 092F13857009:
client=localhost[::1]
Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 postfix/cleanup[3986161]: 092F13857009:
message-id=<43742A8A55D8CF45+202307101559084465696@rivai.ai>
Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 opendkim[2238591]: 092F13857009: no signing table match
for 'juzhe.zhong@rivai.ai'
Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 092F13857009:
from=<gcc-patches-bounces+fweimer=redhat.com@gcc.gnu.org>, size=11360, nrcpt=1
(queue active)
Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 postfix/smtp[3886851]: 092F13857009:
to=<fweimer@redhat.com>,
relay=us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242]:25, delay=0.57,
delays=0.05/0/0.15/0.38, dsn=5.0.0, status=bounced (host
us-smtp-inbound-2.mimecast.com[205.139.110.242] said: 554 Email rejected due to
security policies - https://community.mimecast.com/docs/DOC-1369#554
[Ng5NK7R_MYmnJc1-CmSlRg.us518] (in reply to end of DATA command))
Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 postfix/bounce[3925775]: 092F13857009: sender
non-delivery notification: 999E9385771A
Jul 10 07:59:34 server2 postfix/qmgr[415641]: 092F13857009: removed

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* [Bug Infrastructure/30586] More data about Mailman bounce-based unsubscriptions
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  2023-07-14 11:43 ` fweimer at redhat dot com
  14 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: mark at klomp dot org @ 2023-07-14 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

--- Comment #14 from Mark Wielaard <mark at klomp dot org> ---
There doesn't seem to have been any more bounces from mimecast to your address
since those on July 10.  Are you still having issues with subscriptions or
missing/bouncing emails?

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  2023-07-14 11:34 ` mark at klomp dot org
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From: fweimer at redhat dot com @ 2023-07-14 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: overseers

https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=30586

Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Status|WAITING                     |RESOLVED
         Resolution|---                         |MOVED

--- Comment #15 from Florian Weimer <fweimer at redhat dot com> ---
Right, looks good to me. I think we can resolve this.

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