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From: Martin Uecker <muecker@gwdg.de>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Sutton <asutton.list@gmail.com>
Cc: Jonathon Anderson <anderson.jonathonm@gmail.com>,
	Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>, Ian Lance Taylor <iant@golang.org>,
	Paul Koning <paulkoning@comcast.net>,
	Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	"Sandra Loosemore" <sloosemore@baylibre.com>,
	Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, <overseers@sourceware.org>,
	<gcc@gcc.gnu.org>, <binutils@sourceware.org>,
	<gdb@sourceware.org>, <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 17:59:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f32d4b6afcb7dbbaa8284abdd402a763147caabf.camel@gwdg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFiYyc11pjFtSkJbEJqhDN39YKx=XibgDpfZ7xsgS77EDM+1gw@mail.gmail.com>

Am Samstag, dem 06.04.2024 um 15:00 +0200 schrieb Richard Biener:
> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 11:18 PM Andrew Sutton via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I think the key difference here is that Autotools allows arbitrarily
> > > generated code to be executed at any time. More modern build systems
> > > require the use of specific commands/files to run arbitrary code, e.g.
> > > CMake (IIRC [`execute_process()`][2] and [`ExternalProject`][3]), Meson
> > > ([`run_command()`][1]), Cargo ([`build.rs`][4]).\
> > > 
> > > To me it seems that Cargo is the absolute worst case with respect to
> > > supply chain attacks.
> > > 
> > > It pulls in dependencies recursively from a relatively uncurated
> > > list of projects, puts the source of all those dependencies into a
> > > hidden directory in home, and runs Build.rs automatically with
> > > user permissions.
> > > 
> > 
> > 100% this. Wait until you learn how proc macros work.
> 
> proc macro execution should be heavily sandboxed, otherwise it seems
> compiling something is enough to get arbitrary code executed with the
> permission of the compiling user.  I mean it's not rocket science - browsers
> do this for javascript.  Hmm, we need a webassembly target ;)

This would be useful anyhow. 

And locking down the compiler using landlock to only access specified
files / directories would also be nice in general.

Martin




  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-06 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29 20:39 Security warning about xz library compromise Mark Wielaard
2024-04-01 15:06 ` Sourceware mitigating and preventing the next xz-backdoor Mark Wielaard
2024-04-02 19:54   ` Sandra Loosemore
2024-04-02 20:03     ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-02 20:20       ` Paul Koning
2024-04-02 20:28         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-04-03  6:26           ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 14:00             ` Michael Matz
2024-04-03 14:14               ` Paul Koning
2024-04-03 14:32               ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 14:46                 ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-03 16:02                 ` Michael Matz
2024-04-03 16:26                   ` Joel Sherrill
2024-04-03 16:32                   ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 16:51                 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-03 16:56                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2024-04-03 18:46               ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-03 19:01                 ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-05 21:15                   ` Andrew Sutton
2024-04-06 13:00                     ` Richard Biener
2024-04-06 15:59                       ` Martin Uecker [this message]
2024-04-04 13:59                 ` Michael Matz
2024-04-09 16:44                   ` anderson.jonathonm
2024-04-09 17:57                     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-04-09 19:59                       ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-09 20:11                         ` Paul Koning
2024-04-09 21:40                           ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-09 21:50                             ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-09 21:58                               ` Sam James
2024-04-09 22:15                                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-09 22:22                                   ` Sam James
2024-04-09 22:53                                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-04-09 22:03                               ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-09 22:10                                 ` Sam James
2024-04-09 21:54                           ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-09 22:00                             ` Sam James
2024-04-10 14:09                             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2024-04-10 18:47                               ` Jonathon Anderson
2024-04-10 19:00                                 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2024-04-10 10:26                       ` Claudio Bantaloukas
2024-04-02 22:08     ` Guinevere Larsen
2024-04-02 22:21       ` Guinevere Larsen
2024-04-02 22:50       ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-02 23:20       ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-02 23:34       ` Paul Koning
2024-04-03  0:37         ` Jeffrey Walton
2024-04-03  8:08       ` Florian Weimer
2024-04-03 13:53         ` Joel Sherrill
2024-04-04 10:25           ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-10 16:30           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-21 15:30             ` Mark Wielaard
2024-04-21 20:40               ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-21 20:52                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-30 11:28                 ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-04-03 14:04         ` Tom Tromey
2024-04-03 14:42           ` Jeff Law
2024-04-04 10:48             ` Mark Wielaard

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