From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, archer@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Q: mutlithreaded tracees && clone/exit
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:57:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719225704.E957A40840@magilla.sf.frob.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Jan Kratochvil's message of Monday, 19 July 2010 18:01:27 +0200 <20100719160127.GA13331@host1.dyn.jankratochvil.net>
> This issue does not work well even with linux-nat.c (local GDB), in the
> current development stage of ugdb I believe we do not have to solve it before
> linux-nat.c gets fixed first:
> GDB hangs with simple multi-threaded program on linux
> http://sourceware.org/ml/gdb/2010-07/msg00045.html
On the contrary, this is something where not being ptrace makes an
important difference. The ptrace behavior that makes this difficult to
deal with in linux-nat.c is not at all an inherent issue with the scenario,
it's just a quirk of the ptrace interface. The fact that linux-nat.c
doesn't handle it well means that it's not a big priority to handle it
better than that. But it's certainly not the case that linux-nat.c
improving its support would have anything to do with how ugdb would do it.
> GDB will sooner or later use the 'T' packet (remote_thread_alive) to reclaim
> dead threads.
For this to be correct, it must be using multiprocess mode so that its
packet says Tn.m instead of just Tm. In the latter case, the TID m may
have been reused for an unrelated new thread.
> IMO yes, we should first get ugdb a bit on-par with linux-nat.c, don't we?
Sure. But we should carefully note all the ways in which that standard of
comparison is less than ideal.
> > gdbserver asks gdb what is the symbol's address (say, _thread_db_list_t_next)
> > via 'qSymbol'.
>
> i see this can be a problem for ugdb. Guessing we will need to change GDB to
> support new variant of proc-service.c working over the GDB protocol wire.
proc-service.c is already written in terms of the gdb target backend.
I had presumed that all this thread_db layer of concern would happen
above the LWP layer, and the remote protocol supplies the LWP layer.
Thanks,
Roland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-19 22:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-16 20:54 Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-16 21:40 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-18 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-18 18:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-18 20:22 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-19 13:44 ` BUG: add_thread_silent()->switch_to_thread(minus_one_ptid) is wrong Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-19 15:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-19 16:01 ` Q: mutlithreaded tracees && clone/exit Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-19 22:57 ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2010-07-20 13:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:04 ` BUG? gdb, non-stop && c -a Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:12 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-20 14:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 15:08 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-20 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 19:43 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-21 7:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 8:10 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-21 11:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:21 ` Q: mutlithreaded tracees && clone/exit Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-20 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 19:41 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-21 8:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:43 ` Q: who maintains the STOPPED/RUNNING state? Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <y0mk4ophmvn.fsf@fche.csb>
2010-07-21 10:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 10:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 17:06 ` Q: multiple inferiors, all-stop && vCont Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 20:42 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-23 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 14:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 16:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-28 18:19 ` gdbstub initial code, another approach Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-29 21:38 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-07-30 13:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 13:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-07-30 15:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 13:25 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-30 14:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 15:20 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-02 12:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 13:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-30 17:59 ` Tom Tromey
2010-08-02 18:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-02 23:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 12:27 ` Q: %Stop && gdb crash Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 13:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 19:57 ` Kevin Buettner
2010-08-04 19:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-04 23:32 ` Kevin Buettner
2010-08-05 18:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 13:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 12:39 ` Q: multiple inferiors, all-stop && vCont Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 14:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 15:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 18:37 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-18 17:07 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-18 19:22 ` Roland McGrath
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