From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil@redhat.com>
Cc: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
utrace-devel@redhat.com, archer@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: gdbstub initial code, another approach
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:44:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100730144124.GA10396@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100730132537.GA15448@host1.dyn.jankratochvil.net>
On 07/30, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:57:55 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > IIUK, the main goal is prototype the new generic API,
>
> As I thought there is an agreement the ptrace API has to stay.
Of course, ptrace can't go away.
> We definitely need some serialized protocol as we need remote debugging with
> multiple inferiors for cloud.
Nobody argues.
> I do not see why to create a new layer (your `new generic API') between kernel
> and gdbserver-in-userland.
Because gdb is not alone? I agree, it is probably most important.
> > while the remote protocol (in my opinion) is obviously can't be considered
> > as such. With this split it is possible to try to add some API and test it
> > with or without gdb. Also, it is much more easy to play with the the
> > protocol extensions (which I believe it needs) this way.
>
> If it is only a development tool for the in-kernel server then OK.
Right now I do not know.
> > It would be (I think) much easier to teach the real
> > gdbserver and/or gdb to use this new API
>
> gdb linux-nat.c (=local gdb) should be deprecated. There is definitely a need
> for remote target and actively maintaining two modes is not effective, we can
> run gdbserver even during single-host debugging.
OK,
> We can port gdbserver to anything but I do not see the point. We should
> probably move the threading support from gdbserver to gdb but there isn't much
> left to do in userland gdbserver with properly designed kernel API.
IOW, you think that it is better to shift gdbserver into kernel-space
than port the existing one to the new API or write the new one in user
space ?
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-30 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-16 20:54 Q: mutlithreaded tracees && clone/exit Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-16 21:40 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-18 17:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-18 18:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-18 20:22 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-19 13:44 ` BUG: add_thread_silent()->switch_to_thread(minus_one_ptid) is wrong Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-19 15:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-19 16:01 ` Q: mutlithreaded tracees && clone/exit Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-19 22:57 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-20 13:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:04 ` BUG? gdb, non-stop && c -a Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:12 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-20 14:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 15:08 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-20 15:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 19:43 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-21 7:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 8:10 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-21 11:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:21 ` Q: mutlithreaded tracees && clone/exit Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-20 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 19:41 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-21 8:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-20 14:43 ` Q: who maintains the STOPPED/RUNNING state? Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <y0mk4ophmvn.fsf@fche.csb>
2010-07-21 10:20 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 10:51 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 17:06 ` Q: multiple inferiors, all-stop && vCont Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-21 20:42 ` Roland McGrath
2010-07-23 17:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 14:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-26 16:06 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-28 18:19 ` gdbstub initial code, another approach Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-29 21:38 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-07-30 13:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 13:16 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2010-07-30 15:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-07-30 13:25 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-30 14:44 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-07-30 15:20 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-02 12:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 13:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-07-30 17:59 ` Tom Tromey
2010-08-02 18:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-02 23:54 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 12:27 ` Q: %Stop && gdb crash Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 13:17 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 19:57 ` Kevin Buettner
2010-08-04 19:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-04 23:32 ` Kevin Buettner
2010-08-05 18:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 13:36 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 15:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 12:39 ` Q: multiple inferiors, all-stop && vCont Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 14:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 15:55 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-03 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-08-03 18:37 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-18 17:07 ` Jan Kratochvil
2010-08-18 19:22 ` Roland McGrath
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