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From: "Ying Huang" <ying.huang@oss.cipunited.com>
To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	 "libc-alpha" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Cc: <yunqiang.su@oss.cipunited.com>, "binutils" <binutils@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] MIPS: Sync elf.h from binutils
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:27:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8725cca2-4c4d-f32d-fc8c-3c6c194c481c@oss.cipunited.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <114fe517229b8cc0e504238f0d8553dd3528f5e9.568cb3db.66b5.4ad3.826b.3b027f1ea47e@feishu.cn>

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Hi Maciej,

Can you help commit  these two patchs?

Thanks,

Ying


在 2023/8/18 18:10, 黄莺 写道:
> Hi Maciej,
> I have submitted pacthv10 including changing all E_MIPS_* to EF_MIPS_, and also updatebinutils & submit patch.
> Thanks,
> Ying
> From: "Maciej W. Rozycki"<macro@orcam.me.uk>
> Date: Sat, Aug 12, 2023, 01:43
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v7] MIPS: Sync elf.h from binutils
> To: "Florian Weimer"<fweimer@redhat.com>
> Cc: "Richard Sandiford"<richard.sandiford@arm.com>, "Ying Huang"<ying.huang@oss.cipunited.com>, "libc-alpha"<libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, <yunqiang.su@oss.cipunited.com>, <binutils@sourceware.org>
> Hi Florian, Cc-ing binutils now, to get a record of this discussion there. > > The EF_* definitions were added on top of preexisting E_* macros back in > > 1998 by Ulrich Drepper with commit c3966b88eeb ("Update.") and only this: > > > > * elf/elf.h: Add lots of new symbols from Irix and Solaris. > > My concern was adding EF_* constants to glibc that duplicate E_* > constants that are used in binutils. I think we should either change > binutils to use the EF_* constants, too, or for these legacy constants, > use the E_* prefix in glibc as well. It's not a problem: as long as we reach consensus I can update binutils accordingly, and we can discard E_* constants from there at any time if needed as they are for BFD use only and we don't offer any stable BFD API. > Not sure if this a reasonable position, though. So I did a little more research on this topic and came across this thread of mine from decades ago, and specifically this message coming from the lost world:
> <https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2002-07/msg00681.html>. Clearly IRIX used to use EF_* macros, just as I thought and just as has used the Linux kernel (and MTI never came to finishing their promised psABI spec, where it only says "To be supplied" in the relevant part[1]). So while we may have to keep the few already existing in <elf.h>, just because we were unfortunate enough to make them a part of our API back in 1996: * elf/elf.h: Add some new constants from recent Cygnus ELF header files. having likely taken them as a Cygnus invention without due consideration, I think we ought to refrain from adding new E_* macros and stick to EF_* instead. NB the whole thread referred above might be worth reviewing for anyone interested in these matters. Here's a reference for the earlier part: <https://lore.kernel.org/r/Pine.GSO.3.96.1020724182704.27732L-100000@delta.ds2.pg.gda.pl/> as the discussion started on the old MIPS/Linux mailing lists first and then was carried over to
> binutils as well. References: [1] "MIPS ABIs Described", MIPS Technologies, Inc., Document Number: MD00305, Revision 1.3, 2002/12/02, Chapter 7. "ELF object code", p. 24 <https://web.archive.org/web/20140911162016/https://dmz-portal.mips.com/mw/images/f/fe/MD00305-2B-ABIDESC-SPC-01.03.pdf> Maciej

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-21  6:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2023-08-11 17:43               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-08-16  6:15                 ` Ying Huang
2023-08-18 10:10                 ` 黄莺
2023-08-21  6:27                   ` Ying Huang [this message]
2023-08-21 11:14                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2023-08-22  8:55                       ` Ying Huang

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