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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com>
Cc: Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>,
	 Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	 libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	binutils@sourceware.org,  caiyinyu <caiyinyu@loongson.cn>,
	Wang Xuerui <i@xen0n.name>,
	 liuzhensong <liuzhensong@loongson.cn>
Subject: Re: glibc 2.36 - Slushy freeze (3 weeks to release)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:24:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFP8O3LZzf5rLWD2F7rsjc-VzaAcuatof5R90857zGW5LCccxA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YszdJQAvZ8D3Gebk@squeak.grove.modra.org>

On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 7:32 PM Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 08:48:18AM +0800, Xi Ruoyao via Binutils wrote:
> > > The R_LARCH_NONE issue should only affect performance,
> > > since it should be ignored by loader although I am not sure without
> > > understanding better the issue.
>
> R_*_NONE relocs are harmless in an executable or shared library, if
> their presence is due to overallocating space for relocations.  Of
> course, if ld should actually be emitting some other dynamic reloc
> type then that is a more serious problem.
>
> > Fangrui suggested [2] we should assume R_LARCH_NONE does not exist to
> > simplify the code and catch ld bugs earlier.
>
> Yes that will annoy your user base into reporting bugs.  How much do
> you want to annoy them?  You might like to consider why other major
> architectures with mature linkers process and ignore R_*_NONE relocs
> in the loader..

If a linker port has a high confidence level, removing dynamic
R_*_NONE support from the loader shall be the right thing.
I can understand that there may not be the case in GNU ld as I've seen
such bugs in riscv (e.g.
https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24673), too (I think
gold, lld, and mold make it difficult to make such bugs).
But I did wish that a fresh port of a new arch in binutils had fixed
all such bugs. I realized it might be the case for LoongArch, so
keeping R_LARCH_NONE support in glibc ld.so may be fine.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-12  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fef8c3c7-fd30-d8b5-e539-f0f21d562c51@redhat.com>
2022-07-11 16:06 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-11 19:10   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-12  0:48     ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  1:02       ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  2:32       ` Alan Modra
2022-07-12  4:24         ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2022-07-12  6:19           ` Jan Beulich
2022-07-12  6:42           ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-12  7:33             ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-12  8:49               ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  8:58                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-12  9:24             ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12 10:21               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-12 11:01                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-12 12:15                   ` Michael Matz
2022-07-12 13:17                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-12 13:28                       ` Michael Matz
2022-07-15 22:34                         ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2022-07-12 12:48                   ` caiyinyu
2022-07-12 13:00                     ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  7:33           ` Andrew Waterman

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