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From: Hans-Peter Nilsson <hp@bitrange.com>
To: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	 Michael Matz via Libc-alpha <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	 caiyinyu <caiyinyu@loongson.cn>,
	liuzhensong <liuzhensong@loongson.cn>,
	 binutils@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: glibc 2.36 - Slushy freeze (3 weeks to release)
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2022 18:34:52 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.16.2207151824480.66434@arjuna.pair.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.2207121318150.24606@wotan.suse.de>

On Tue, 12 Jul 2022, Michael Matz via Binutils wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2022, Florian Weimer wrote:
>
> > > lenient in what you accept", even more so for something so basic as a
> > > program loader.  It seems ill-advised to use ld.so to force something
> > > onto users that can only be called a strive for purity.
> >
> > The problem here is that R_*_NONE has historically been used in binutils
> > to indicate, ?I did not recognize the relocation in the input file?,
> > while still generating an output file.
>
> The usual reason for _NONE are overallocated .rel output sections,
> where then further optimizations (after section sizes and hence base
> addresses are fixed) got rid of some of those relocations.  (All these
> cases can be considered missed optimizations, but those happen easily)
> Unrecognizable input relocations are usually errored out on (and should
> be!) and don't lead to random _NONE output relocs, for exactly the reason
> you cited.

(From the department of opinions nobody asked for:)
This is IMHO the most correct assessment.  And, beware of adding
new potentially relocation-removing linker optimizations after
section layout.  I'd add something about fighting windmills, but
the "strive for purity" fits nicely. :)

brgds, H-P

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-15 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fef8c3c7-fd30-d8b5-e539-f0f21d562c51@redhat.com>
2022-07-11 16:06 ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-11 19:10   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-12  0:48     ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  1:02       ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  2:32       ` Alan Modra
2022-07-12  4:24         ` Fangrui Song
2022-07-12  6:19           ` Jan Beulich
2022-07-12  6:42           ` WANG Xuerui
2022-07-12  7:33             ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-12  8:49               ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  8:58                 ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-12  9:24             ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12 10:21               ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-12 11:01                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-07-12 12:15                   ` Michael Matz
2022-07-12 13:17                     ` Florian Weimer
2022-07-12 13:28                       ` Michael Matz
2022-07-15 22:34                         ` Hans-Peter Nilsson [this message]
2022-07-12 12:48                   ` caiyinyu
2022-07-12 13:00                     ` Xi Ruoyao
2022-07-12  7:33           ` Andrew Waterman

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