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* [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
@ 2016-03-03 17:13 Bryan Hundven
  2016-03-03 20:33 ` Mike Ray
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Hundven @ 2016-03-03 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: crossgcc

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  Branch: refs/heads/master
  Home:   https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
  Commit: 1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
      https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
  Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)

  Changed paths:
    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by

  Log Message:
  -----------
  samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi

This is a aarch64 raspberry pi 3 sample.

Please test!

Signed-off-by: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>


  Commit: bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
      https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
  Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
  Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)

  Changed paths:
    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by

  Log Message:
  -----------
  Merge pull request #362 from bhundven/rpi_aarch64_sample

samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi


Compare: https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/compare/0f76cad2f078...bd460e8872dd

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* Re: [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
  2016-03-03 17:13 [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi Bryan Hundven
@ 2016-03-03 20:33 ` Mike Ray
  2016-03-04  0:25   ` Bryan Hundven
  2016-03-04 10:26   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike Ray @ 2016-03-03 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: crossgcc

On 03/03/2016 17:13, Bryan Hundven wrote:
>   Branch: refs/heads/master
>   Home:   https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
>   Commit: 1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>       https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>   Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>   Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
> 
>   Changed paths:
>     A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>     A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
> 
>   Log Message:
>   -----------
>   samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
> 
> This is a aarch64 raspberry pi 3 sample.
> 
> Please test!
> 
> Signed-off-by: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
> 
> 
>   Commit: bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>       https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>   Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>   Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
> 
>   Changed paths:
>     A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>     A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
> 
>   Log Message:
>   -----------
>   Merge pull request #362 from bhundven/rpi_aarch64_sample
> 
> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
> 
> 
> Compare: https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/compare/0f76cad2f078...bd460e8872dd
> 
> 
> 
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> 

Hello.

Toolchain built and helloworld app compiled.

Not sure if you intended for the name of the sample to be prefixed
'aarch' instead of 'arch':

	aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/

Output of `file helloworld`:

	helloworld: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV),
dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, for
GNU/Linux 4.0.4, not stripped

Built on 64-bit Debian Jessie.

Of course helloworld won't run on my Pi3 with 32-bit Raspbian.

Did you intend this sample to not be hard-float? (I don't know whether
the Cortex A53 is HF or not).

There is some debate on the Foundation site whether running 64-bit with
only 1GB of RAM is much of a gain but it will be interesting finding out.

Foundation forum mods and developers haven't mentioned whether
boot-loader needs to be 64-bit as well.

Mike


-- 
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Analyst/Programmer
Witley, Surrey, South-east UK

Eyes-free Linux:
http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/

Raspberry VI:
http://www.raspberryvi.org/


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* Re: [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
  2016-03-03 20:33 ` Mike Ray
@ 2016-03-04  0:25   ` Bryan Hundven
  2016-03-04  0:31     ` Bryan Hundven
  2016-03-04 10:26   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Hundven @ 2016-03-04  0:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mike; +Cc: crossgcc

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> On Mar 3, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org> wrote:
> 
> On 03/03/2016 17:13, Bryan Hundven wrote:
>>  Branch: refs/heads/master
>>  Home:   https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
>>  Commit: 1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>      https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>  Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>  Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>> 
>>  Changed paths:
>>    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>> 
>>  Log Message:
>>  -----------
>>  samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>> 
>> This is a aarch64 raspberry pi 3 sample.
>> 
>> Please test!
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>>  Commit: bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>      https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>  Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>  Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>> 
>>  Changed paths:
>>    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>    A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>> 
>>  Log Message:
>>  -----------
>>  Merge pull request #362 from bhundven/rpi_aarch64_sample
>> 
>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>> 
>> 
>> Compare: https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/compare/0f76cad2f078...bd460e8872dd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> For unsubscribe information see http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq
>> 
> 
> Hello.
> 
> Toolchain built and helloworld app compiled.
> 
> Not sure if you intended for the name of the sample to be prefixed
> 'aarch' instead of 'arch':
> 
> 	aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/

Yes, aarch64. It’s “arm arch 64” ;)
They also call arm 32-bit aarch32, but config.sub still search for arm* instead of aarch32.

> 
> Output of `file helloworld`:
> 
> 	helloworld: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, for
> GNU/Linux 4.0.4, not stripped

Looks good!

> 
> Built on 64-bit Debian Jessie.
> 
> Of course helloworld won't run on my Pi3 with 32-bit Raspbian.

Right.

> 
> Did you intend this sample to not be hard-float? (I don't know whether
> the Cortex A53 is HF or not).

Dang, I new I felt like I was jumping the gun when I merged. I’ll fix that.

> 
> There is some debate on the Foundation site whether running 64-bit with
> only 1GB of RAM is much of a gain but it will be interesting finding out.

It’s true. There really isn’t much bonus to running in 64-bit mode without more memory.

> 
> Foundation forum mods and developers haven't mentioned whether
> boot-loader needs to be 64-bit as well.

Are they releasing 64-bit firmware files?

> 
> Mike

Cheers,

-Bryan

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* Re: [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
  2016-03-04  0:25   ` Bryan Hundven
@ 2016-03-04  0:31     ` Bryan Hundven
  2016-03-04  0:37       ` Mike Ray
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bryan Hundven @ 2016-03-04  0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mike; +Cc: crossgcc

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> On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On 03/03/2016 17:13, Bryan Hundven wrote:
>>> Branch: refs/heads/master
>>> Home:   https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
>>> Commit: 1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>>     https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>> Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>> Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>>> 
>>> Changed paths:
>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>>> 
>>> Log Message:
>>> -----------
>>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>>> 
>>> This is a aarch64 raspberry pi 3 sample.
>>> 
>>> Please test!
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Commit: bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>>     https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>> Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>> Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>>> 
>>> Changed paths:
>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>>> 
>>> Log Message:
>>> -----------
>>> Merge pull request #362 from bhundven/rpi_aarch64_sample
>>> 
>>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Compare: https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/compare/0f76cad2f078...bd460e8872dd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> For unsubscribe information see http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq
>>> 
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> Toolchain built and helloworld app compiled.
>> 
>> Not sure if you intended for the name of the sample to be prefixed
>> 'aarch' instead of 'arch':
>> 
>> 	aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/
> 
> Yes, aarch64. It’s “arm arch 64” ;)
> They also call arm 32-bit aarch32, but config.sub still search for arm* instead of aarch32.
> 
>> 
>> Output of `file helloworld`:
>> 
>> 	helloworld: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, for
>> GNU/Linux 4.0.4, not stripped
> 
> Looks good!
> 
>> 
>> Built on 64-bit Debian Jessie.
>> 
>> Of course helloworld won't run on my Pi3 with 32-bit Raspbian.
> 
> Right.
> 
>> 
>> Did you intend this sample to not be hard-float? (I don't know whether
>> the Cortex A53 is HF or not).
> 
> Dang, I new I felt like I was jumping the gun when I merged. I’ll fix that.

And that is a nope:
(Quoting ARM.com)
Hard-float ABI by default in ARMv8-A

So we should be good here.

> 
>> 
>> There is some debate on the Foundation site whether running 64-bit with
>> only 1GB of RAM is much of a gain but it will be interesting finding out.
> 
> It’s true. There really isn’t much bonus to running in 64-bit mode without more memory.
> 
>> 
>> Foundation forum mods and developers haven't mentioned whether
>> boot-loader needs to be 64-bit as well.
> 
> Are they releasing 64-bit firmware files?
> 
>> 
>> Mike
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Bryan

Cheers,

-Bryan


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* Re: [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
  2016-03-04  0:31     ` Bryan Hundven
@ 2016-03-04  0:37       ` Mike Ray
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike Ray @ 2016-03-04  0:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: crossgcc

On 04/03/2016 00:31, Bryan Hundven wrote:
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Mike Ray <mike@raspberryvi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2016 17:13, Bryan Hundven wrote:
>>>> Branch: refs/heads/master
>>>> Home:   https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng
>>>> Commit: 1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>>>     https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/1f590667acc1dc1f729c3f4c14612399100f041d
>>>> Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>>> Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>>>>
>>>> Changed paths:
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>>>>
>>>> Log Message:
>>>> -----------
>>>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>>>>
>>>> This is a aarch64 raspberry pi 3 sample.
>>>>
>>>> Please test!
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Commit: bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>>>     https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/commit/bd460e8872ddc7dbbdcb09c2c0a18d22936bf698
>>>> Author: Bryan Hundven <bryanhundven@gmail.com>
>>>> Date:   2016-03-03 (Thu, 03 Mar 2016)
>>>>
>>>> Changed paths:
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/crosstool.config
>>>>   A samples/aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/reported.by
>>>>
>>>> Log Message:
>>>> -----------
>>>> Merge pull request #362 from bhundven/rpi_aarch64_sample
>>>>
>>>> samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Compare: https://github.com/crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng/compare/0f76cad2f078...bd460e8872dd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> For unsubscribe information see http://sourceware.org/lists.html#faq
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Toolchain built and helloworld app compiled.
>>>
>>> Not sure if you intended for the name of the sample to be prefixed
>>> 'aarch' instead of 'arch':
>>>
>>> 	aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi/
>>
>> Yes, aarch64. It’s “arm arch 64” ;)
>> They also call arm 32-bit aarch32, but config.sub still search for arm* instead of aarch32.
>>
>>>
>>> Output of `file helloworld`:
>>>
>>> 	helloworld: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (SYSV),
>>> dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, for
>>> GNU/Linux 4.0.4, not stripped
>>
>> Looks good!
>>
>>>
>>> Built on 64-bit Debian Jessie.
>>>
>>> Of course helloworld won't run on my Pi3 with 32-bit Raspbian.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>>
>>> Did you intend this sample to not be hard-float? (I don't know whether
>>> the Cortex A53 is HF or not).
>>
>> Dang, I new I felt like I was jumping the gun when I merged. I’ll fix that.
> 
> And that is a nope:
> (Quoting ARM.com)
> Hard-float ABI by default in ARMv8-A
> 
> So we should be good here.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> There is some debate on the Foundation site whether running 64-bit with
>>> only 1GB of RAM is much of a gain but it will be interesting finding out.
>>
>> It’s true. There really isn’t much bonus to running in 64-bit mode without more memory.
>>
>>>
>>> Foundation forum mods and developers haven't mentioned whether
>>> boot-loader needs to be 64-bit as well.
>>
>> Are they releasing 64-bit firmware files?
>>
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> -Bryan
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -Bryan
> 

I haven't seen anything on the Foundation forum pages that suggest there
are any plans at the moment to do so, apart from someone saying the
'Raspbian guys are investigating the possibility".

I have no idea whether the boot-loader is bitness-independent or not,
but I found no suggestion it isn't.

I don't know much about the finer points of architectures but I will
give a kernel compile a go (when I have recreated the toolchain with HF)
just for the hell of it.  It'll probably crash and burn.

Mike



-- 
Michael A. Ray
Analyst/Programmer
Witley, Surrey, South-east UK

Eyes-free Linux:
http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/

Raspberry VI:
http://www.raspberryvi.org/


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* Re: [crosstool-ng/crosstool-ng] 1f5906: samples: add aarch64-rpi3-linux-gnueabi
  2016-03-03 20:33 ` Mike Ray
  2016-03-04  0:25   ` Bryan Hundven
@ 2016-03-04 10:26   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Earnshaw (lists) @ 2016-03-04 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mike, crossgcc

On 03/03/16 20:33, Mike Ray wrote:
> Foundation forum mods and developers haven't mentioned whether
> boot-loader needs to be 64-bit as well.

In common with other 64-it systems, like x86 for example, to run a
64-bit application you need a 64-bit operating system, and to run a
64-bit operating system you need a 64-bit boot-loader.

The privilege levels in the system only support running 64-bit at one
privilege level if the level above it is running at 64-bit; and you can
only switch states as you enter a privilege level, so if your top-level
boot code isn't 64-bit you'll never be able to get back to that state.

R.

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