perl 5.32

perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

Achim,

I've just learned that the next release of biber is going to require 5.32.  Do 
you have any plans to package the latter?

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> I've just learned that the next release of biber is going to require
> 5.32.  Do you have any plans to package the latter?

Well, I get that they always want to be on the bleeding edge of UTF-8,
but otherwise is that version really a requirement?  The update itself
isn't much of a problem I'd think, it's just that there's this slew of
other packages to update in concert and the fact that most of them
haven't yet added the perl5_030 require to prevent the update doing
damage to an installation until such a package is actually updated.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 12/8/2020 2:05 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> I've just learned that the next release of biber is going to require
>> 5.32.  Do you have any plans to package the latter?
> 
> Well, I get that they always want to be on the bleeding edge of UTF-8,
> but otherwise is that version really a requirement?  The update itself
> isn't much of a problem I'd think, it's just that there's this slew of
> other packages to update in concert and the fact that most of them
> haven't yet added the perl5_030 require to prevent the update doing
> damage to an installation until such a package is actually updated.

Yes, unfortunately it really is a requirement.  But I'd be perfectly happy to 
just install 5.32 locally and use it for building the upstream biber (which is 
distributed as an archive created by PAR::Packer).  I can delay releasing 
Cygwin's biber package until you're ready to update perl.

Would it be easy for you to send me a cygport file that I could use for building 
my own perl 5.32?

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> Yes, unfortunately it really is a requirement.  But I'd be perfectly
> happy to just install 5.32 locally and use it for building the
> upstream biber (which is distributed as an archive created by
> PAR::Packer).  I can delay releasing Cygwin's biber package until
> you're ready to update perl.

I'd still be interested in what upstream thinks they get from 5.32 that
absolutely can't be had from 5.30.

> Would it be easy for you to send me a cygport file that I could use
> for building my own perl 5.32?

I'll have to check which patches to carry and pull them up to the new
base.  The other thing about 5.32 is that I would really like to wait
until 5.32.1 is out and there is no date set for when that is going to
happen.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> I'd still be interested in what upstream thinks they get from 5.32 that
> absolutely can't be had from 5.30.

It's even more saddening or hilarious (depending on where you are
standing) than I thought.  The whole thing was developed while still
being compatible with 5.30 and in preparation for the release they
changed around a bunch of configs that have _nothing_ to do with the
functionality to make 5.32 the requirement.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 12/9/2020 1:57 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> I'd still be interested in what upstream thinks they get from 5.32 that
>> absolutely can't be had from 5.30.
> 
> It's even more saddening or hilarious (depending on where you are
> standing) than I thought.  The whole thing was developed while still
> being compatible with 5.30 and in preparation for the release they
> changed around a bunch of configs that have _nothing_ to do with the
> functionality to make 5.32 the requirement.

I've just followed up with the biber maintainer, with a copy to you.

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> I've just followed up with the biber maintainer, with a copy to you.

Thanks.

I've checked again, there was talk about getting 5.32.1 going end of
November but nothing happened since then (on the mailing list anyway).
I think it's unlikely to get released this year since Big Sur has
created a bunch of problems that they'll probably want to get on top of
before collecting the backporting patches.

I'll see to get 5.32.0 out for you as a test release (let me know which
distributions you need in addtion to perl itself).  Whether we patch
Biber back to 5.30 compatibility or wait for the 5.32.1 update for Biber
remains to be decided later on I'd say.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 12/9/2020 3:37 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> I'll see to get 5.32.0 out for you as a test release (let me know which
> distributions you need in addtion to perl itself).

Thanks.  Here's the BUILD_REQUIRES:

perl-Business-ISBN
perl-Business-ISMN
perl-Business-ISSN
perl-Class-Accessor
perl-Config-AutoConf
perl-Data-Compare
perl-Data-Dump
perl-Data-Uniqid
perl-DateTime-Calendar-Julian
perl-DateTime-Format-Builder
perl-Encode-EUCJPASCII
perl-Encode-HanExtra
perl-Encode-JIS2K
perl-ExtUtils-LibBuilder
perl-File-Slurper
perl-File-Which
perl-IO-String
perl-IPC-Cmd
perl-IPC-Run3
perl-LWP-Protocol-https
perl-Lingua-Translit
perl-List-AllUtils
perl-List-MoreUtils
perl-List-MoreUtils-XS
perl-Log-Log4perl
perl-Module-Build
perl-Mozilla-CA
perl-Parse-RecDescent
perl-PerlIO-utf8_strict
perl-Regexp-Common
perl-Sort-Key
perl-Test-Differences
perl-Test-Simple
perl-Text-BibTeX
perl-Text-CSV
perl-Text-CSV_XS
perl-Text-Roman
perl-URI
perl-Unicode-Collate
perl-Unicode-LineBreak
perl-Unicode-Normalize
perl-XML-LibXML
perl-XML-LibXML-Simple
perl-XML-LibXSLT
perl-XML-Writer
perl-autovivification
perl-libwww-perl

> Whether we patch
> Biber back to 5.30 compatibility or wait for the 5.32.1 update for Biber
> remains to be decided later on I'd say.

Sounds good to me.

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> I've checked again, there was talk about getting 5.32.1 going end of
> November but nothing happened since then (on the mailing list anyway).
> I think it's unlikely to get released this year since Big Sur has
> created a bunch of problems that they'll probably want to get on top of
> before collecting the backporting patches.

The current indication is that this release wqill be ready mid to end
of January.

> I'll see to get 5.32.0 out for you as a test release (let me know which
> distributions you need in addtion to perl itself).  Whether we patch
> Biber back to 5.30 compatibility or wait for the 5.32.1 update for Biber
> remains to be decided later on I'd say.

I've cleaned up the patches so they still apply on top of 5.32.0 where
applicable and built the initial packages.  For the rest I'll have to
set up one of my old build machines as I don't want to move my main
build box from the official state (which would mean I could no longer
update other packages).


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 12/21/2020 3:30 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> I've checked again, there was talk about getting 5.32.1 going end of
>> November but nothing happened since then (on the mailing list anyway).
>> I think it's unlikely to get released this year since Big Sur has
>> created a bunch of problems that they'll probably want to get on top of
>> before collecting the backporting patches.
> 
> The current indication is that this release wqill be ready mid to end
> of January.
> 
>> I'll see to get 5.32.0 out for you as a test release (let me know which
>> distributions you need in addtion to perl itself).  Whether we patch
>> Biber back to 5.30 compatibility or wait for the 5.32.1 update for Biber
>> remains to be decided later on I'd say.
> 
> I've cleaned up the patches so they still apply on top of 5.32.0 where
> applicable and built the initial packages.  For the rest I'll have to
> set up one of my old build machines as I don't want to move my main
> build box from the official state (which would mean I could no longer
> update other packages).

Great.  Thanks for working on this.

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> I've cleaned up the patches so they still apply on top of 5.32.0 where
> applicable and built the initial packages.  For the rest I'll have to
> set up one of my old build machines as I don't want to move my main
> build box from the official state (which would mean I could no longer
> update other packages).

I ended up creating a completely new build environment and staging
repository on that machine.  I have completed the stage-1 bootstrap,
when I have reviewed the build logs for (new) errors I'll start the
stage-2 bootstrap.  That'll take about a bit on that machine, but I
should get a repo that I can upload for your tests out of it.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> I've cleaned up the patches so they still apply on top of 5.32.0 where
>> applicable and built the initial packages.  For the rest I'll have to
>> set up one of my old build machines as I don't want to move my main
>> build box from the official state (which would mean I could no longer
>> update other packages).
>
> I ended up creating a completely new build environment and staging
> repository on that machine.  I have completed the stage-1 bootstrap,
> when I have reviewed the build logs for (new) errors I'll start the
> stage-2 bootstrap.  That'll take about a bit on that machine, but I
> should get a repo that I can upload for your tests out of it.


The Perl 5.32 test repository is now up at:

root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
$root/perl-5.32

including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain.  This
is purely for initial testing of the 5.32 mainline, there is no
intention of releasing this version of Perl on Cygwin.  Once the first
maintenance update becomes available in January (if everything comes
together as planned), I'll just start over.  I'll also just replace any
packages in the repo when I have to rework them for whatever reason.

Therefore, don't expect to be able to update installations with these
packages installed without manual intervention.  I recommend to use
either a throwaway installation or having a full backup of the original
installation.

The setup.ini is signed with my PGP key available at $root/stromeko.gpg,
which you can download and then feed to setup.exe via the -K switch.
The fingerprint of that key is:

      B22B 4890 B89E 5E5A 795C  E305 B40B EC75 3152 B1C3

If you have the keyart script (Python, you can just download from
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/atoponce/keyart/master/keyart), this
is what you should see after importing the key into your public keyring:

> keyart stromeko
+-----[DSA 2048]----+
|         ^.        |
|        ^ .        |
|       ^ E         |
|    . . ^ :        |
|. .  ^ : .         |
|.^  . ^.:S         |
| ..  . :^.         |
|.  .^ ^.^          |
|. ^:.^ ..          |
| ^:... .           |
|.^    .            |
+-----[3152B1C3]----+
+-------------------+
|                 :X|
|             .  ^^^|
|            :   ..^|
|         . : .   E |
|          i . . .  |
|       ^ S l : .   |
|        i l ^ ^    |
|       ^ . .       |
|      .   .        |
|       . .         |
|      ...          |
+-------------------+


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 12/26/2020 12:43 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>> I've cleaned up the patches so they still apply on top of 5.32.0 where
>>> applicable and built the initial packages.  For the rest I'll have to
>>> set up one of my old build machines as I don't want to move my main
>>> build box from the official state (which would mean I could no longer
>>> update other packages).
>>
>> I ended up creating a completely new build environment and staging
>> repository on that machine.  I have completed the stage-1 bootstrap,
>> when I have reviewed the build logs for (new) errors I'll start the
>> stage-2 bootstrap.  That'll take about a bit on that machine, but I
>> should get a repo that I can upload for your tests out of it.
> 
> 
> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now up at:
> 
> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
> $root/perl-5.32
> 
> including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain.  This
> is purely for initial testing of the 5.32 mainline, there is no
> intention of releasing this version of Perl on Cygwin.  Once the first
> maintenance update becomes available in January (if everything comes
> together as planned), I'll just start over.  I'll also just replace any
> packages in the repo when I have to rework them for whatever reason.
> 
> Therefore, don't expect to be able to update installations with these
> packages installed without manual intervention.  I recommend to use
> either a throwaway installation or having a full backup of the original
> installation.

Thanks very much!  It worked fine for building biber.

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now up at:
>> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
>> $root/perl-5.32
>> including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain.
>
> Thanks very much!  It worked fine for building biber.

Did you encounter any problems with setup, provided you started with an
installation that already has the 5.30 Perl installed?  Since I use my
own local repository and setup.ini that only contains the packages I am
going to install I can't really test that scenario, although I noticed
that "Sync" does produce a very strange solution the first time around
and I have to cycle through "Keep" and "Best" for it to settle on just
upgrading Perl and not removing half of the rest of the system.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 12/27/2020 1:41 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>>> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now up at:
>>> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
>>> $root/perl-5.32
>>> including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain.
>>
>> Thanks very much!  It worked fine for building biber.
> 
> Did you encounter any problems with setup, provided you started with an
> installation that already has the 5.30 Perl installed?  Since I use my
> own local repository and setup.ini that only contains the packages I am
> going to install I can't really test that scenario, although I noticed
> that "Sync" does produce a very strange solution the first time around
> and I have to cycle through "Keep" and "Best" for it to settle on just
> upgrading Perl and not removing half of the rest of the system.

I used a test installation that had 5.30 installed but didn't have all the Perl 
distributions that I needed for building Biber.  I never had occasion to use 
"Sync"; I just installed missing packages.  Sometimes I ran setup with your repo 
in addition to a regular mirror, and sometimes just with yours.  I ran it 
several times until I had everything I needed.

The only small glitch that I encountered was when upgrading perl-Algorithm-Diff. 
  The version in your test repo was 1.201 instead of 1.2010, so setup didn't 
recognize it as being newer than the installed version (1.9xxx).

Ken

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> The only small glitch that I encountered was when upgrading
> perl-Algorithm-Diff.   The version in your test repo was 1.201 instead
> of 1.2010, so setup didn't recognize it as being newer than the
> installed version (1.9xxx).

Ah, I forgot to change that, thanks for noticing.  I'm still thinking
about whether I should generally canonicalize the versions for setup.
That would be yet another patch for cygport, though.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now up at:
>
> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
> $root/perl-5.32

Additionally the perl-5.32-RC1 is now available in this repo as a test
package (perl-5.32.1-0.1).  The distributions are all unchanged.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 1/10/2021 7:42 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now up at:
>>
>> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
>> $root/perl-5.32
> 
> Additionally the perl-5.32-RC1 is now available in this repo as a test
> package (perl-5.32.1-0.1).  The distributions are all unchanged.

I installed it on my test installation and rebuilt biber.  No problems.

Ken

[Attn. Maintainers] perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Perl 5.32 was released today.  In order to switch to this new Perl we
will again have to update or re-release a bunch of packages that are
using Perl.  I will soon replace the RC1 in my test repository with the
release version and rebuild all distributions.  You can then use this
repository to update your installations and then the packages you own.

Please note that you need to manually insert a dependency on perl5_032
in addition to any dependencies to perl_base or perl into your packages
since the officially released cygport does not yet generate this extra
dependency.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> Perl 5.32 was released today.  In order to switch to this new Perl we
> will again have to update or re-release a bunch of packages that are
> using Perl.  I will soon replace the RC1 in my test repository with the
> release version and rebuild all distributions.  You can then use this
> repository to update your installations and then the packages you own.

The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the stage 2 bootstrap
packages at:

root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
$root/perl-5.32

including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain.  This
is purely for initial testing of the 5.32 mainline, there is no
intention of releasing this version of Perl on Cygwin.  I'll just
replace any packages in the repo when I have to rework them for whatever
reason and keep the release number the same.  Expect a stage 3 bootstrap
round to be made available later this week.  There is no need to
re-create any packages you might already have updated using the stage 2
version.

Therefore, don't expect to be able to update installations with these
packages installed without manual intervention.  I recommend to use
either a throwaway installation or having a full backup of the original
installation.  If you want to re-install into an existing installation,
you can make setup do that by issuing:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
sed -i.bak -re 's/( perl[-_]?.*-)[0-9.]+-[0-9]+\.tar/\10-0.tar/' /etc/setup/installed.db
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The setup.ini is signed with my PGP key available at $root/stromeko.gpg,
which you can download and then feed to setup.exe via the -K switch.
The fingerprint of that key is:

      B22B 4890 B89E 5E5A 795C  E305 B40B EC75 3152 B1C3

If you have the keyart script (Python, you can just download from
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/atoponce/keyart/master/keyart), this
is what you should see after importing the key into your public keyring:

> keyart stromeko
+-----[DSA 2048]----+
|         ^.        |
|        ^ .        |
|       ^ E         |
|    . . ^ :        |
|. .  ^ : .         |
|.^  . ^.:S         |
| ..  . :^.         |
|.  .^ ^.^          |
|. ^:.^ ..          |
| ^:... .           |
|.^    .            |
+-----[3152B1C3]----+
+-------------------+
|                 :X|
|             .  ^^^|
|            :   ..^|
|         . : .   E |
|          i . . .  |
|       ^ S l : .   |
|        i l ^ ^    |
|       ^ . .       |
|      .   .        |
|       . .         |
|      ...          |
+-------------------+


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.


The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the stage 3 bootstrap
packages at:

root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
$root/perl-5.32

including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain.  This
is purely for preparation of your 5.32 compatible packages.  While I
will most likely have another bootstrap round, there is no need to
rebuild any dependent packages if you built them with either the stage 1
or stage 2 packages.

Don't expect to be able to update installations with these packages
installed without manual intervention.  I recommend to use either a
throwaway installation or having a full backup of the original
installation.  If you want to re-install into an existing installation,
you can make setup do that by issuing:

sed -i.bak -re 's/( perl[-_]?.*-)[0-9.]+-[0-9]+\.tar/\10-0.tar/' /etc/setup/installed.db

The setup.ini is signed with my PGP key available at $root/stromeko.gpg,
which you can download and then feed to setup.exe via the -K switch.
The fingerprint of that key is:

      B22B 4890 B89E 5E5A 795C  E305 B40B EC75 3152 B1C3

If you have the keyart script (Python, you can just download from
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/atoponce/keyart/master/keyart), this
is what you should see after importing the key into your public keyring:

> keyart stromeko
+-----[DSA 2048]----+
|         ^.        |
|        ^ .        |
|       ^ E         |
|    . . ^ :        |
|. .  ^ : .         |
|.^  . ^.:S         |
| ..  . :^.         |
|.  .^ ^.^          |
|. ^:.^ ..          |
| ^:... .           |
|.^    .            |
+-----[3152B1C3]----+
+-------------------+
|                 :X|
|             .  ^^^|
|            :   ..^|
|         . : .   E |
|          i . . .  |
|       ^ S l : .   |
|        i l ^ ^    |
|       ^ . .       |
|      .   .        |
|       . .         |
|      ...          |
+-------------------+


Best Regards.
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Achim.
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/2/2021 2:40 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> 
> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
> this list about their status.

biber is ready to go.

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[ASSI]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> biber is ready to go.

Off the top of my head I think perl-PAR-Packer is also yours and
probably the only one I don't co-own.  I can include it in the jumbo
update if you give me co-maint.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 03.02.2021 07:13, ASSI wrote:
> Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> biber is ready to go.
> 
> Off the top of my head I think perl-PAR-Packer is also yours and
> probably the only one I don't co-own.  I can include it in the jumbo
> update if you give me co-maint.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.
> 

I set it for dual; I doubt perl-PAR-Packer make any difference to Ken
for the overall managing of perl:

$ grep "^perl.*Achim Gratz/Ken Brown$" cygwin-pkg-maint | wc -l
48

$ grep "^perl.*Achim Gratz$" cygwin-pkg-maint |wc -l
325

Thanks
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/3/2021 2:31 AM, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 03.02.2021 07:13, ASSI wrote:
>> Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>>> biber is ready to go.
>>
>> Off the top of my head I think perl-PAR-Packer is also yours and
>> probably the only one I don't co-own.  I can include it in the jumbo
>> update if you give me co-maint.

I had forgotten about that.  Yes, please include it in the jumbo update.

> I set it for dual;

Thanks, Marco.

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Andrew Schulman]

> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the stage 3 bootstrap
> packages at:
> 
> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
> $root/perl-5.32

Not sure I understand. In setup I entered

  http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32

as a mirror URL, but setup complains:

  Mirror error: Setup.ini signature
http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32/x86_64/setup.xz.sig from
http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32 failed to verify.

Am I doing that wrong?
Thanks,
Andrew

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/4/2021 7:10 AM, Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the stage 3 bootstrap
>> packages at:
>>
>> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
>> $root/perl-5.32
> 
> Not sure I understand. In setup I entered
> 
>    http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32
> 
> as a mirror URL, but setup complains:
> 
>    Mirror error: Setup.ini signature
> http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32/x86_64/setup.xz.sig from
> http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32 failed to verify.

Try adding '-K http://cygwin.stromeko.net/stromeko.gpg' to your invocation of setup.

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/4/2021 9:04 AM, Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 2/4/2021 7:10 AM, Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the stage 3 bootstrap
>>> packages at:
>>>
>>> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
>>> $root/perl-5.32
>>
>> Not sure I understand. In setup I entered
>>
>>    http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32
>>
>> as a mirror URL, but setup complains:
>>
>>    Mirror error: Setup.ini signature
>> http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32/x86_64/setup.xz.sig from
>> http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32 failed to verify.
> 
> Try adding '-K http://cygwin.stromeko.net/stromeko.gpg' to your invocation of 
> setup.

P.S. I assume you're asking about this so that you can rebuild perl-Stow.  In 
case you missed it, Achim made a packaging suggestion here:

  https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2021-January/247594.html

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> Try adding '-K http://cygwin.stromeko.net/stromeko.gpg' to your
>> invocation of setup.
>
> P.S. I assume you're asking about this so that you can rebuild
> perl-Stow.  In case you missed it, Achim made a packaging suggestion
> here:
>
>  https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2021-January/247594.html

Thank you Ken.  I have nothing to add to these answers. :-)

Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Andrew Schulman]

> On 2/4/2021 9:04 AM, Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> > On 2/4/2021 7:10 AM, Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> >>> The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the stage 3 bootstrap
> >>> packages at:
> >>>
> >>> root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
> >>> $root/perl-5.32
> >>
> >> Not sure I understand. In setup I entered
> >>
> >>    http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32
> >>
> >> as a mirror URL, but setup complains:
> >>
> >>    Mirror error: Setup.ini signature
> >> http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32/x86_64/setup.xz.sig from
> >> http://cygwin.stromeko.net/perl-5.32 failed to verify.
> > 
> > Try adding '-K http://cygwin.stromeko.net/stromeko.gpg' to your invocation of 
> > setup.
> 
> P.S. I assume you're asking about this so that you can rebuild perl-Stow.  In 
> case you missed it, Achim made a packaging suggestion here:
> 
>   https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2021-January/247594.html
> 
> Ken

Thank you. stow is ready now. And no, I hadn't seen the packaging error -
fixed in the next release.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps writes:
> Thank you. stow is ready now. And no, I hadn't seen the packaging error -
> fixed in the next release.

You mean the one that you've just readied or another one?  I'd prefer if
it was fixed in coincidence with the update if it isn't too much of a
bother for you.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Andrew Schulman]

> Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps writes:
> > Thank you. stow is ready now. And no, I hadn't seen the packaging error -
> > fixed in the next release.
> 
> You mean the one that you've just readied or another one?  I'd prefer if
> it was fixed in coincidence with the update if it isn't too much of a
> bother for you.

Packaging error will be fixed in the forthcoming stow-2.3.1+5.32-1, which
will be compatible with perl-5.32. So same release as the perl update.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps writes:
> Packaging error will be fixed in the forthcoming stow-2.3.1+5.32-1, which
> will be compatible with perl-5.32. So same release as the perl update.

Thanks.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps writes:
> Packaging error will be fixed in the forthcoming stow-2.3.1+5.32-1, which
> will be compatible with perl-5.32. So same release as the perl update.

Please let us know when you have uploaded the package.  Thanks.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Andrew Schulman]

> Andrew Schulman via Cygwin-apps writes:
> > Packaging error will be fixed in the forthcoming stow-2.3.1+5.32-1, which
> > will be compatible with perl-5.32. So same release as the perl update.
> 
> Please let us know when you have uploaded the package.  Thanks.

Uploaded stow-2.3.1+5.32-1.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.

These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
(some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
also) and need updating for perl-5.32:

GraphicsMagick
ImageMagick
biber
graphviz
libproxy
libsolv
link-grammar
marisa
ming
net-snmp
nginx
openbabel
openwsman
po4a
pristine-tar
sendxmpp
stow
subversion
xfconf
zbar
zinnia

Please note that I can't easily figure out if a package uses an embedded
Perl interpreter or sets up its own installation paths for Perl modules.
These packages have previously been determined to fall under that
category (some may have dropped that dependency in the meantime, but the
maintainer would hopefully know):

gdal
git
git-svn
grepmail
irssi
postgresql
rxvt
texinfo
weechat
znc


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/6/2021 11:13 AM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
>> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
>> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
>> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
>> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.

> Please note that I can't easily figure out if a package uses an embedded
> Perl interpreter or sets up its own installation paths for Perl modules.
> These packages have previously been determined to fall under that
> category (some may have dropped that dependency in the meantime, but the
> maintainer would hopefully know):
> 
> texinfo

No problem here.  I tested by running 'make check' in the texinfo source tree, 
with perl-5.32 installed.

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 06.02.2021 17:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
>> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
>> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
>> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
>> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.
> 
> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:
> 

we will need some extra work or adopting

GraphicsMagick                               Marco Atzeri
ImageMagick                                  Marco Atzeri
biber                                        Ken Brown
graphviz                                     Yaakov Selkowitz
libproxy                                     Yaakov Selkowitz
libsolv                                      Jon Turney
link-grammar                                 Yaakov Selkowitz
marisa                                       Yaakov Selkowitz
ming                                         ORPHANED (Dr. Volker Zell)
net-snmp                                     David Rothenberger
nginx                                        Yaakov Selkowitz
openbabel                                    Lemures Lemniscati
openwsman                                    Yaakov Selkowitz
po4a                                         Erwin Waterlander
pristine-tar                                 Jari Aalto
sendxmpp                                     Jari Aalto
stow                                         Andrew Schulman
subversion                                   Marco Atzeri
xfconf                                       Yaakov Selkowitz
zbar                                         Yaakov Selkowitz
zinnia                                       Yaakov Selkowitz


> 
> Please note that I can't easily figure out if a package uses an embedded
> Perl interpreter or sets up its own installation paths for Perl modules.
> These packages have previously been determined to fall under that
> category (some may have dropped that dependency in the meantime, but the
> maintainer would hopefully know):
> 

gdal                                         Marco Atzeri
cgit                                         Yaakov Selkowitz
git                                          Adam Dinwoodie
stgit                                        Jari Aalto
grepmail                                     Jari Aalto
irssi                                        Marco Atzeri
postgresql                                   Marco Atzeri
rxvt                                         Yaakov Selkowitz
texinfo                                      Ken Brown
weechat                                      Sebastien Helleu
znc                                          Alexey Sokolov

> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.

Thanks
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
> we will need some extra work or adopting

As I said, some of these haven't seen an update for perl-5.30 and so
can't have worked for almost a year already without anybody noticing, so
I'm not overly worried…


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Alexey Sokolov]

> >
> > Please note that I can't easily figure out if a package uses an embedded
> > Perl interpreter or sets up its own installation paths for Perl modules.
> > These packages have previously been determined to fall under that
> > category (some may have dropped that dependency in the meantime, but the
> > maintainer would hopefully know):
> >
> znc                                          Alexey Sokolov
>

Hi

This package uses an embedded interpreter.

Right now I have technical difficulties, and ETA to resolve them is
unknown, so can't upload a new version. The cygport is available at
https://cygwin.com/git-cygwin-packages/?p=git/cygwin-packages/znc.git;a=summary
, could you please try to rebuild it with the new perl?
SCALLYWAG=deploy worked the last time, so there shouldn't be any
difficulties. I won't be able to check if runtime works though.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Alexey Sokolov writes:
>> >
>> > Please note that I can't easily figure out if a package uses an embedded
>> > Perl interpreter or sets up its own installation paths for Perl modules.
>> > These packages have previously been determined to fall under that
>> > category (some may have dropped that dependency in the meantime, but the
>> > maintainer would hopefully know):
>> >
>> znc                                          Alexey Sokolov
>
> This package uses an embedded interpreter.
>
> Right now I have technical difficulties, and ETA to resolve them is
> unknown, so can't upload a new version. The cygport is available at
> https://cygwin.com/git-cygwin-packages/?p=git/cygwin-packages/znc.git;a=summary
> , could you please try to rebuild it with the new perl?

OK, should be no problem.  Marco, can you give me (temporary) co-maint
over znc, please?

> SCALLYWAG=deploy worked the last time, so there shouldn't be any
> difficulties. I won't be able to check if runtime works though.

I can't use that venue unless we leave a gap between the relase and
updating the package, but we haven't figured out how exactly to
synchronize the upload anyway.  Jon, any preferences?


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 07.02.2021 09:35, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Alexey Sokolov writes:
>>>>

>>
>> Right now I have technical difficulties, and ETA to resolve them is
>> unknown, so can't upload a new version. The cygport is available at
>> https://cygwin.com/git-cygwin-packages/?p=git/cygwin-packages/znc.git;a=summary
>> , could you please try to rebuild it with the new perl?
> 
> OK, should be no problem.  Marco, can you give me (temporary) co-maint
> over znc, please?

done

> Regards,
> Achim.

Regards
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Alexey Sokolov]

07.02.2021 10:33, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps пишет:
> On 07.02.2021 09:35, Achim Gratz wrote:
>> Alexey Sokolov writes:
>>>>>
> 
>>>
>>> Right now I have technical difficulties, and ETA to resolve them is
>>> unknown, so can't upload a new version. The cygport is available at
>>> https://cygwin.com/git-cygwin-packages/?p=git/cygwin-packages/znc.git;a=summary
>>>
>>> , could you please try to rebuild it with the new perl?
>>
>> OK, should be no problem.  Marco, can you give me (temporary) co-maint
>> over znc, please?
> 
> done
> 
>> Regards,
>> Achim.
> 
> Regards
> Marco
> 
> 

Hi, I'm able to upload again, so the temporary co-maint may be removed now.
Thanks Achim.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 06.06.2021 11:01, Alexey Sokolov wrote:
> 07.02.2021 10:33, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps пишет:
>> On 07.02.2021 09:35, Achim Gratz wrote:
>>> Alexey Sokolov writes:

> Hi, I'm able to upload again, so the temporary co-maint may be removed now.
> Thanks Achim.
> 

Done.
If you have problem again, let us know

Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
> git                                          Adam Dinwoodie

While Git doesn't need an immediate update, that really is due to a
packaging error that ought to be finally fixed, please.  The install
should go into the standard Perl vendor directory like every Linux
distribution I've looked at.  Why this doesn't happen in the Cygwin
build I haven't checked.  Also, no modules "FromCPAN" must be present,
Cygwin has newer ones anyway.

Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 06.02.2021 20:07, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> On 06.02.2021 17:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>
>> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
>> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
>> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:
>>
> 

two built

> GraphicsMagick                               Marco Atzeri
> ImageMagick                                  Marco Atzeri

I am looking at it
> graphviz                                     Yaakov Selkowitz

to follow
> subversion                                   Marco Atzeri
> gdal                                         Marco Atzeri
> irssi                                        Marco Atzeri
> postgresql                                   Marco Atzeri

Regards
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[marco atzeri]

On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:12 PM Marco Atzeri wrote:
>
> On 06.02.2021 20:07, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> > On 06.02.2021 17:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> >> Achim Gratz writes:
> >>
> >> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
> >> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
> >> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:

 4 built

GraphicsMagick                               Marco Atzeri
ImageMagick                                  Marco Atzeri
irssi                                        Marco Atzeri
postgresql                                   Marco Atzeri

> I am looking at it
> > graphviz                                     Yaakov Selkowitz
>
> to follow
> > subversion                                   Marco Atzeri
> > gdal                                         Marco Atzeri

Regards
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[ASSI]

marco atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
>  4 built
>
> GraphicsMagick                               Marco Atzeri
> ImageMagick                                  Marco Atzeri
> irssi                                        Marco Atzeri
> postgresql                                   Marco Atzeri
>
>> I am looking at it
>> > graphviz                                     Yaakov Selkowitz
>>
>> to follow
>> > subversion                                   Marco Atzeri
>> > gdal                                         Marco Atzeri

Thanks.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 09.02.2021 13:00, marco atzeri wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:12 PM Marco Atzeri wrote:
>>
>> On 06.02.2021 20:07, Marco Atzeri wrote:
>>> On 06.02.2021 17:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
>>>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>>>
>>>> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
>>>> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
>>>> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:
> 
    5 built

GraphicsMagick                               Marco Atzeri
ImageMagick                                  Marco Atzeri
irssi                                        Marco Atzeri
postgresql                                   Marco Atzeri
gdal                                         Marco Atzeri

>> I am looking at it
>>> graphviz                                     Yaakov Selkowitz
>>

there is some issue with swig python interface of

subversion                                   Marco Atzeri

I am looking at the version 1.14.1 to see if that has been
solved upstream and in the meantime I also updated swig

but I see no reason to delay the upgrade for it

regards
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Lemures Lemniscati]

On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 20:07:08 +0100, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps
> On 06.02.2021 17:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> > Achim Gratz writes:
> >> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
> >> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
> >> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
> >> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
> >> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.

Hi!

openbabel-3.1.1 is built and will work with perl 5.32.

Where should I upload the packages for perl 5.32?
Or should I wait, for now?

Regards,

Lem

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[ASSI]

Lemures Lemniscati via Cygwin-apps writes:
> openbabel-3.1.1 is built and will work with perl 5.32.

Thanks.

> Where should I upload the packages for perl 5.32?
> Or should I wait, for now?

Please hold it until Jon has had a chance to fix up some things on the
repos.  Either me or Jon will let you know here when it's time for
uploading.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 10/02/2021 06:02, ASSI wrote:
> Lemures Lemniscati via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> openbabel-3.1.1 is built and will work with perl 5.32.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>> Where should I upload the packages for perl 5.32?
>> Or should I wait, for now?
> 
> Please hold it until Jon has had a chance to fix up some things on the
> repos.  Either me or Jon will let you know here when it's time for
> uploading.

I've fixed what I needed to in the relarea, so this update can proceed 
when Achim gives the go ahead.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[ASSI]

Jon Turney writes:
> I've fixed what I needed to in the relarea, so this update can proceed
> when Achim gives the go ahead.

Please upload your packages, but please double-check that there is a
dependency on perl5_032 in the hints.

If everything works as intended, then setup will not update to any of
these new packages until the provide for perl5_032 is available.  Please
let me know when you have uploaded you packages so I know when I should
be uploading the final package that enables the upgrade to perl-5.32.1
via setup.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/12/2021 1:46 AM, ASSI wrote:
> Jon Turney writes:
>> I've fixed what I needed to in the relarea, so this update can proceed
>> when Achim gives the go ahead.
> 
> Please upload your packages, but please double-check that there is a
> dependency on perl5_032 in the hints.
> 
> If everything works as intended, then setup will not update to any of
> these new packages until the provide for perl5_032 is available.  Please
> let me know when you have uploaded you packages so I know when I should
> be uploading the final package that enables the upgrade to perl-5.32.1
> via setup.

I uploaded biber via cygport and got the following from calm:

ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' requires: 'perl5_032', but nothing 
satisfies that
ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' depends: 'perl5_032', but nothing 
satisfies that
ERROR: error while validating merged x86 packages for Ken Brown
ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' requires: 'perl5_032', but nothing 
satisfies that
ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' depends: 'perl5_032', but nothing 
satisfies that
ERROR: error while validating merged x86_64 packages for Ken Brown
SUMMARY: 6 ERROR(s)

Is this expected?  Will the files stay in my upload area and be merged when the 
time comes?

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 12/02/2021 13:09, Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 2/12/2021 1:46 AM, ASSI wrote:
>> Jon Turney writes:
>>> I've fixed what I needed to in the relarea, so this update can proceed
>>> when Achim gives the go ahead.
>>
>> Please upload your packages, but please double-check that there is a
>> dependency on perl5_032 in the hints.
>>
>> If everything works as intended, then setup will not update to any of
>> these new packages until the provide for perl5_032 is available.  Please
>> let me know when you have uploaded you packages so I know when I should
>> be uploading the final package that enables the upgrade to perl-5.32.1
>> via setup.
> 
> I uploaded biber via cygport and got the following from calm:
> 
> ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' requires: 'perl5_032', but 
> nothing satisfies that
> ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' depends: 'perl5_032', but 
> nothing satisfies that
> ERROR: error while validating merged x86 packages for Ken Brown
> ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' requires: 'perl5_032', but 
> nothing satisfies that
> ERROR: package 'biber' version '2.16-2' depends: 'perl5_032', but 
> nothing satisfies that
> ERROR: error while validating merged x86_64 packages for Ken Brown
> SUMMARY: 6 ERROR(s)
> 
> Is this expected?  Will the files stay in my upload area and be merged 
> when the time comes?
Oops!  I've made a small change to calm to handle this case, and set the 
upload to be retried.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 12.02.2021 16:07, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 12/02/2021 13:09, Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>> On 2/12/2021 1:46 AM, ASSI wrote:
>>> Jon Turney writes:

> Oops!  I've made a small change to calm to handle this case, and set the 
> upload to be retried.


my 5 packages are up.

subversion will follow shortly.
I am checking the 64bit build and than will build the 32bit one

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 13.02.2021 08:09, Marco Atzeri wrote:
> On 12.02.2021 16:07, Jon Turney wrote:
>> On 12/02/2021 13:09, Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps wrote:
>>> On 2/12/2021 1:46 AM, ASSI wrote:
>>>> Jon Turney writes:
> 
>> Oops!  I've made a small change to calm to handle this case, and set 
>> the upload to be retried.
> 
> 
> my 5 packages are up.
> 
> subversion will follow shortly.


also subversion is up

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> my 5 packages are up.
>> subversion will follow shortly.
>
>
> also subversion is up

Thanks.  So noe further updates coming for perl-5.32?


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 15.02.2021 21:33, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
>>> my 5 packages are up.
>>> subversion will follow shortly.
>>
>>
>> also subversion is up
> 
> Thanks.  So noe further updates coming for perl-5.32?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.
> 

nothing short term

Regards
Marco

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> Is this expected?  Will the files stay in my upload area and be merged
> when the time comes?

It seems that upload has completed, right?  Anything else from you?


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Ken Brown]

On 2/15/2021 3:32 PM, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> Is this expected?  Will the files stay in my upload area and be merged
>> when the time comes?
> 
> It seems that upload has completed, right?  Anything else from you?

Yes, it completed, and I'm all set.

Ken

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Lemures Lemniscati via Cygwin-apps writes:
> openbabel-3.1.1 is built and will work with perl 5.32.
>
> Where should I upload the packages for perl 5.32?
> Or should I wait, for now?

In case you haven't seen the other message: please upload that package
now.  Thank you.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Lemures Lemniscati]

On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 21:31:20 +0100, Achim Gratz
> Lemures Lemniscati via Cygwin-apps writes:
> > openbabel-3.1.1 is built and will work with perl 5.32.
> >
> In case you haven't seen the other message: please upload that package
> now.  Thank you.
> 
Thank you.

I've uploaded openbabel-3.1.1p36-3. 

Regards,
Lem

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jari Aalto]

On 2021-02-06 20:07, Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps wrote:
> On 06.02.2021 17:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> > Achim Gratz writes:
> > > Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
> > > this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
> > > the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
> > > maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
> > > disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.
> > 
> > These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
> > (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
> > also) and need updating for perl-5.32:
> > 

Uploaded:

pristine-tar                                 Jari Aalto
sendxmpp                                     Jari Aalto
stgit                                        Jari Aalto
grepmail                                     Jari Aalto

Jari

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Jari Aalto writes:
> Uploaded:
>
> pristine-tar                                 Jari Aalto
> sendxmpp                                     Jari Aalto
> stgit                                        Jari Aalto
> grepmail                                     Jari Aalto

Greatly appreciated, thank you.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 06/02/2021 16:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
>> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
>> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
>> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
>> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.
> 
[...]
> 
> Please note that I can't easily figure out if a package uses an embedded
> Perl interpreter or sets up its own installation paths for Perl modules.
> These packages have previously been determined to fall under that
> category (some may have dropped that dependency in the meantime, but the
> maintainer would hopefully know):
> 
> gdal
> git
> git-svn
> grepmail

I'm not quite sure why grepmail is on this list since it seems to just 
contain a perl script

I think hexchat should also be on this list, as it provides a perl 
scripting plugin.

> irssi
> postgresql
> rxvt

I think this should be 'rxvt-unicode'.  I'll take care of updating that, 
as I did for the last perl update.

> texinfo
> weechat
> znc

Not quite sure that git* and texinfo should be on this list. They seem 
to contain perl scripts and perl modules which are installed elsewhere 
than vendor_perl.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Jon Turney writes:
> I'm not quite sure why grepmail is on this list since it seems to just
> contain a perl script

Then it's probably good as it is.

> I think hexchat should also be on this list, as it provides a perl
> scripting plugin.

I haven't gone through all mails from the previous upgrades, it may well
have been in there somewhere.

>> irssi
>> postgresql
>> rxvt
>
> I think this should be 'rxvt-unicode'.  I'll take care of updating
> that, as I did for the last perl update.

OK.

>> texinfo
>> weechat
>> znc

> Not quite sure that git* and texinfo should be on this list. They seem
> to contain perl scripts and perl modules which are installed elsewhere 
> than vendor_perl.

For Git it is just a packaging error, really.  As I said, that has the
interesting side-effect that it survives the update, but that really is
unintended.

Ken has already confirmed that texinfo is a false positive.


Thanks for checking.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 06/02/2021 16:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
>> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
>> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
>> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
>> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.
> 
> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:

I did a bit of investigation of packages which haven't been updated for 
perl-5.30 (with the plan of making them not installable, since we no 
longer provide a compatible perl), and came up with the following list:

> libproxy                       perl-Net-Libproxy                ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> libsolv                        perl-solv                        Jon Turney
> link-grammar                   perl-clinkgrammar                ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> marisa                         perl-marisa                      ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> ming                           perl-ming                        ORPHANED (Dr. Volker Zell)
> nginx                          nginx-mod_http_perl              ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> openwsman                      perl-openwsman                   ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA       perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA         Achim Gratz
> perl-Tk-Canvas-GradientColor   perl-Tk-Canvas-GradientColor     Achim Gratz
> perl-Tk-ColoredButton          perl-Tk-ColoredButton            Achim Gratz
> perl-Tk-EntryCheck             perl-Tk-EntryCheck               Achim Gratz
> perl-Tk-Getopt                 perl-Tk-Getopt                   Achim Gratz
> xfconf                         perl-Xfce4-Xfconf-4              ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> zbar                           perl-Barcode-ZBar                ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)
> zinnia                         perl-zinnia                      ORPHANED (Yaakov Selkowitz)

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[ASSI]

Jon Turney writes:
>> libsolv                        perl-solv                        Jon Turney

I'd be sad to see this go since I was planning on replacing my
hand-written dependency resolution with it.  It's not urgent, however.

>> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA       perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA         Achim Gratz

This will likely need to be deprecated since the API it was using is no
longer available in OpenSSL.  There is a Fedora patch that made it limp
along for one single release, but that no longer works with newer
OpenSSL and I haven't found a more recent release elsewhere either.
There should be no dependent packages.

>> perl-Tk-Canvas-GradientColor   perl-Tk-Canvas-GradientColor     Achim Gratz
>> perl-Tk-ColoredButton          perl-Tk-ColoredButton            Achim Gratz
>> perl-Tk-EntryCheck             perl-Tk-EntryCheck               Achim Gratz
>> perl-Tk-Getopt                 perl-Tk-Getopt                   Achim Gratz

These will get updates for perl-5.32, there was probably a bug in
perl-Tk that has since fixed.  These are used by perl-PAR-Packer,
specifically the GUI for it.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 11/02/2021 17:44, ASSI wrote:
> Jon Turney writes:
>>> libsolv                        perl-solv                        Jon Turney
> 
> I'd be sad to see this go since I was planning on replacing my
> hand-written dependency resolution with it.  It's not urgent, however.

This was an oversight on my part, rather than deliberate.  I rebuilt the 
package for perl 5.30, and then again for perl 5.32.

>>> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA       perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-ECDSA         Achim Gratz
> 
> This will likely need to be deprecated since the API it was using is no
> longer available in OpenSSL.  There is a Fedora patch that made it limp
> along for one single release, but that no longer works with newer
> OpenSSL and I haven't found a more recent release elsewhere either.
> There should be no dependent packages.
> 
>>> perl-Tk-Canvas-GradientColor   perl-Tk-Canvas-GradientColor     Achim Gratz
>>> perl-Tk-ColoredButton          perl-Tk-ColoredButton            Achim Gratz
>>> perl-Tk-EntryCheck             perl-Tk-EntryCheck               Achim Gratz
>>> perl-Tk-Getopt                 perl-Tk-Getopt                   Achim Gratz
> 
> These will get updates for perl-5.32, there was probably a bug in
> perl-Tk that has since fixed.  These are used by perl-PAR-Packer,
> specifically the GUI for it.

... and you seem to have taken care of all these.

If you are agreeable, I'll add a perl5_026 requirement to the other 
packages listed.

This will make setup refuse to install them, since the requirement can't 
be satisfied (and uninstall them if they are already installed), which 
is hopefully no great loss, as they probably can't result in a working 
installation since perl-5.26 was expired from the release area, anyhow.

I'll also add that requirement to any old perl 5.26-era versions of perl 
distribution packages we still have in the relarea.

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[ASSI]

Jon Turney writes:
>>>> libsolv                        perl-solv                        Jon Turney
>> I'd be sad to see this go since I was planning on replacing my
>> hand-written dependency resolution with it.  It's not urgent, however.
>
> This was an oversight on my part, rather than deliberate.  I rebuilt
> the package for perl 5.30, and then again for perl 5.32.

Yay!

> ... and you seem to have taken care of all these.

Indeed.

> If you are agreeable, I'll add a perl5_026 requirement to the other
> packages listed.

Please do, that should plug the loophole that could make them
installable without actually working.

> I'll also add that requirement to any old perl 5.26-era versions of
> perl distribution packages we still have in the relarea.

…or vault them since there really isn't any Perl available that can use
them.  Your choice.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 09/04/2021 16:58, ASSI wrote:
> Jon Turney writes:
>>>>> libsolv                        perl-solv                        Jon Turney
>>> I'd be sad to see this go since I was planning on replacing my
>>> hand-written dependency resolution with it.  It's not urgent, however.
>>
>> This was an oversight on my part, rather than deliberate.  I rebuilt
>> the package for perl 5.30, and then again for perl 5.32.
> 
> Yay!

Well, it seems like I intended to rebuild libsolv for perl 5.32, but 
didn't actually do it, until now...

>> ... and you seem to have taken care of all these.
> 
> Indeed.
> 
>> If you are agreeable, I'll add a perl5_026 requirement to the other
>> packages listed.
> 
> Please do, that should plug the loophole that could make them
> installable without actually working.

Ok, this is done.

>> I'll also add that requirement to any old perl 5.26-era versions of
>> perl distribution packages we still have in the relarea.
> 
> …or vault them since there really isn't any Perl available that can use
> them.  Your choice.

Yes, they should probably get vaulted, but the package staleness 
determination doesn't take that into account at the moment.

What's the status of updating cygport to generate this kind perl 
requirement automatically, so I never have to think about this again :)?

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Jon Turney writes:
> What's the status of updating cygport to generate this kind perl
> requirement automatically, so I never have to think about this again
> :)?

Yaakov being way less responsive than he used to doesn't help that
determination.  I've submitted the whole thing multiple times and he has
committed the stack of URL patches he requested recently but I see no
signs of the additional patches that (also) implement the part you are
talking about:

https://repo.or.cz/cygport/rpm-style.git/shortlog/refs/heads/to-upstream

So let's hope he is just not yet done reviewing these.


Regards,
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Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Jon Turney]

On 06/02/2021 16:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Achim Gratz writes:
>> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
>> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
>> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
>> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
>> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.
> 
> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:
> 
[...]
 > graphviz
[...]

I updated and rebuilt graphviz (for perl-5.32 and python-3.9)

The only remaining packages [1] with a perl 5.30 dependency are:

> hexchat                        hexchat-perl                     Marco Atzeri
> perl-net-snmp                  net-snmp                         David Rothenberger

[1] (excluding the perl-Gtk2* and perl-Gnome2* packages, which are 
deprecated upstream and will be removed from the package repo at some stage)

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 20.02.2022 15:41, Jon Turney wrote:
> On 06/02/2021 16:13, Achim Gratz wrote:
>> Achim Gratz writes:
>>> Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and report on
>>> this list about their status.  The one package that I intend to wait for
>>> the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is under my
>>> maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without too much
>>> disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.
>>
>> These are the source packages that touch the previous Perl installations
>> (some of these weren't updated for perl-5.30, so I checked perl-5.26
>> also) and need updating for perl-5.32:
>>
> [...]
>  > graphviz
> [...]
> 
> I updated and rebuilt graphviz (for perl-5.32 and python-3.9)
> 
> The only remaining packages [1] with a perl 5.30 dependency are:
> 
>> hexchat                        hexchat-perl                     Marco 
>> Atzeri

rebuilt hexchat

>> perl-net-snmp                  net-snmp                         David 
>> Rothenberger
> 
> [1] (excluding the perl-Gtk2* and perl-Gnome2* packages, which are 
> deprecated upstream and will be removed from the package repo at some 
> stage)

Re: [Attn. Maintainers] prepare your packages for release of perl-5.32

[Achim Gratz]

I tentatively plan to do the release some time towards the end of the
upcoming week.

Reminder: Please prepare your packages for the release of perl-5.32 and
report on this list about their status.  The one package that I intend
to wait for the release is subversion-perl, everything else either is
under my maintenance already or can be updated slightly later without
too much disturbance based on the last two updates of Perl.

Please note that you need to manually insert a dependency on perl5_032
in addition to any dependencies to perl_base or perl into your packages
since the officially released cygport does not yet generate this extra
dependency.

The Perl 5.32 test repository is now updated with the (presumably) final
packages at:

root=http://cygwin.stromeko.net/
$root/perl-5.32

including all Perl distributions that I maintain or co-maintain
(additionally on request: znc).  You can use this for preparation of
your 5.32 compatible packages, if you've used an earlier incarnation of
the repo that is OK too.

Don't expect to be able to update installations with these packages
installed without manual intervention.  I recommend to use either a
throwaway installation or having a full backup of the original
installation.  If you want to re-install into an existing installation,
you can make setup do that by issuing:

sed -i.bak -re 's/( perl[-_]?.*-)[0-9.]+-[0-9]+\.tar/\10-0.tar/' /etc/setup/installed.db

The setup.ini is signed with my PGP key available at $root/stromeko.gpg,
which you can download and then feed to setup.exe via the -K switch.
The fingerprint of that key is:

      B22B 4890 B89E 5E5A 795C  E305 B40B EC75 3152 B1C3

If you have the keyart script (Python, you can just download from
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/atoponce/keyart/master/keyart), this
is what you should see after importing the key into your public keyring:

> keyart stromeko
 +-----[DSA 2048]----+
 |         ^.        |
 |        ^ .        |
 |       ^ E         |
 |    . . ^ :        |
 |. .  ^ : .         |
 |.^  . ^.:S         |
 | ..  . :^.         |
 |.  .^ ^.^          |
 |. ^:.^ ..          |
 | ^:... .           |
 |.^    .            |
 +-----[3152B1C3]----+
 +-------------------+
 |                 :X|
 |             .  ^^^|
 |            :   ..^|
 |         . : .   E |
 |          i . . .  |
 |       ^ S l : .   |
 |        i l ^ ^    |
 |       ^ . .       |
 |      .   .        |
 |       . .         |
 |      ...          |
 +-------------------+


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Re: perl 5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 08.12.2020 20:05, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Ken Brown via Cygwin-apps writes:
> 
> Well, I get that they always want to be on the bleeding edge of UTF-8,
> but otherwise is that version really a requirement?  The update itself
> isn't much of a problem I'd think, it's just that there's this slew of
> other packages to update in concert and the fact that most of them
> haven't yet added the perl5_030 require to prevent the update doing
> damage to an installation until such a package is actually updated.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.
> 

should we add the perl5_032 to REQUIRES ?

Regards
Marco

Re: perl 5.32

[ASSI]

Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
> should we add the perl5_032 to REQUIRES ?

Yes, as I'd written earlier in this thread:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Please note that you need to manually insert a dependency on perl5_032
in addition to any dependencies to perl_base or perl into your packages
since the officially released cygport does not yet generate this extra
dependency.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

You could alternatively build and use my patched cygport that should do
it automatically (please report back if not):

https://repo.or.cz/cygport/rpm-style.git

specifically the to-upstream branch.  Or build from a snapshot:

https://repo.or.cz/cygport/rpm-style.git/snapshot/to-upstream-d495ecc.tar.gz


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Marco Atzeri]

On 07.02.2021 08:14, ASSI wrote:
> Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> should we add the perl5_032 to REQUIRES ?
> 
> Yes, as I'd written earlier in this thread:

yes, I had the impression to remember it,
but I had problem to find the point so better safe than sorry.

I assume only if we have a version dependency or a DLL dependency

$ cygport GraphicsMagick.cygport list | grep perl5
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/Graphics/Magick.pm
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/auto/Graphics/Magick/Magick.dll
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/auto/Graphics/Magick/autosplit.ix

generic perl scripts should only pull "perl_base"

> Regards,
> Achim.

Regards
Marco

Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
> $ cygport GraphicsMagick.cygport list | grep perl5
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/Graphics/Magick.pm
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/auto/Graphics/Magick/Magick.dll
> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/auto/Graphics/Magick/autosplit.ix
>
> generic perl scripts should only pull "perl_base"

For Base packages, yes.  Otherwise it's a bit of a judgement call, but
I'd rather tie a package to the Perl version it was tested with (you can
always change the hint file later if you know it really doesn't need to
be repackaged after an update).  You can't generally know in advance if
that works or not with a later Perl version, especially now that there
is talk about a version 7 that will most likely deprecate a number of
features and make others the default.  Binary and feature compatibility
is only guaranteed within one major version.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: perl 5.32

[Achim Gratz]

Achim Gratz writes:
> Marco Atzeri via Cygwin-apps writes:
>> $ cygport GraphicsMagick.cygport list | grep perl5
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/Graphics/Magick.pm
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/auto/Graphics/Magick/Magick.dll
>> /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.32/x86_64-cygwin-threads/auto/Graphics/Magick/autosplit.ix
>>
>> generic perl scripts should only pull "perl_base"
>
> For Base packages, yes.  Otherwise it's a bit of a judgement call, but
> I'd rather tie a package to the Perl version it was tested with (you can
> always change the hint file later if you know it really doesn't need to
> be repackaged after an update).  You can't generally know in advance if
> that works or not with a later Perl version, especially now that there
> is talk about a version 7 that will most likely deprecate a number of
> features and make others the default.  Binary and feature compatibility
> is only guaranteed within one major version.

In case it wasn't clear, the patched cygport only injects the dependency
when a package touches one of the versioned perl directories, so the
cases we've been discussing still need manual intervention.  I think
that's more in line with how Cygwin deals with that sort of thing;
although in principle it could be changed to always inject a dependency
and suppressing it based on either manual intervention or automatic
determination (i.e. seeing that this is a Base package, in which case it
should probably warn).


Regards,
Achim.
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