Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:29:31PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 11:27:15AM -0400, Larry Hall wrote:
>> I said "virus program".  That would be something like
>> Norton AV, McAfee VirusScan, etc.
>
>Hmm, is there any way cygcheck could report on intrusive software like
>virus scanners and firewalls?  Though my knowlege on the subject is
>close to nil I think the latter may be doable with WSCEnumProtocols.

You may be onto something here.

We could even run cygcheck as a background process looking for the
installation of virus scanners and popping up warnings when a virus
scanner was introduced.  If someone was interested, we could maintain
an active database of virus scanners which would be updated over the
internet.

A future project might entail linking cygcheck to email clients, scanning
them for virus scanner attachments and "quarantining" them.  We could
also add a "virus scanner" hook for IE which would detect attempts by
users to download rogue virus scanners to their systems.

If it helps, I could add a cygwin-virus-scanner mailing list devoted to
"first alert" sightings of virus scanners "in the wild".

This could be big.

cgf

Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Brian Dessent]

Christopher Faylor wrote:

> A future project might entail linking cygcheck to email clients, scanning
> them for virus scanner attachments and "quarantining" them.  We could
> also add a "virus scanner" hook for IE which would detect attempts by
> users to download rogue virus scanners to their systems.
> 
> If it helps, I could add a cygwin-virus-scanner mailing list devoted to
> "first alert" sightings of virus scanners "in the wild".

That sounds like a plan.  Although I suspect that in six months Symantec
or Norton would release a "virus scanner scanner" so bloated with cheesy
eye candy and system destabilizing effects that it would set us all back
decades.

Brian

Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[One Angry User]

On Thu, 7 Jul 2005, Brian Dessent's computer deigned to emit the following stream of bytes:

> ... Symantec or Norton would release ...

*or*?  What do you mean, "or"?

OAU

Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes]

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:56:19PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:29:31PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 11:27:15AM -0400, Larry Hall wrote:
> >> I said "virus program".  That would be something like
> >> Norton AV, McAfee VirusScan, etc.
> >
> >Hmm, is there any way cygcheck could report on intrusive software like
> >virus scanners and firewalls?  Though my knowlege on the subject is
> >close to nil I think the latter may be doable with WSCEnumProtocols.
> 
> You may be onto something here.
> 
> We could even run cygcheck as a background process looking for the
> installation of virus scanners and popping up warnings when a virus
> scanner was introduced.  If someone was interested, we could maintain
> an active database of virus scanners which would be updated over the
> internet.
> 
> A future project might entail linking cygcheck to email clients, scanning
> them for virus scanner attachments and "quarantining" them.  We could
> also add a "virus scanner" hook for IE which would detect attempts by
> users to download rogue virus scanners to their systems.
> 
> If it helps, I could add a cygwin-virus-scanner mailing list devoted to
> "first alert" sightings of virus scanners "in the wild".
> 
> This could be big.

LOL.  Glad you liked the idea.

RE: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Dave Korn]

----Original Message----
>From: Brian Dessent
>Sent: 08 July 2005 05:13

> [ ... ] Symantec or Norton [ ... ]


 MUST....RESTRAIN....FIST...OF...DEATH.......!


    cheers,
      DaveK
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Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Christopher Faylor]

On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:00:42PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:56:19PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 08:29:31PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
>> >On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 11:27:15AM -0400, Larry Hall wrote:
>> >> I said "virus program".  That would be something like
>> >> Norton AV, McAfee VirusScan, etc.
>> >
>> >Hmm, is there any way cygcheck could report on intrusive software like
>> >virus scanners and firewalls?  Though my knowlege on the subject is
>> >close to nil I think the latter may be doable with WSCEnumProtocols.
>> 
>> You may be onto something here.
>> 
>> We could even run cygcheck as a background process looking for the
>> installation of virus scanners and popping up warnings when a virus
>> scanner was introduced.  If someone was interested, we could maintain
>> an active database of virus scanners which would be updated over the
>> internet.
>> 
>> A future project might entail linking cygcheck to email clients, scanning
>> them for virus scanner attachments and "quarantining" them.  We could
>> also add a "virus scanner" hook for IE which would detect attempts by
>> users to download rogue virus scanners to their systems.
>> 
>> If it helps, I could add a cygwin-virus-scanner mailing list devoted to
>> "first alert" sightings of virus scanners "in the wild".
>> 
>> This could be big.
>
>LOL.  Glad you liked the idea.

Actually, I did like the idea.  I think that having cygcheck report on virus
scanners would be a big help.

cgf

Re: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Corinna Vinschen]

On Jul  8 08:28, Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 11:00:42PM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
> >LOL.  Glad you liked the idea.
> 
> Actually, I did like the idea.  I think that having cygcheck report on virus
> scanners would be a big help.

cygcheck could become the famous "Malicious Virus Scanner Disabling Tool".


Corinna

RE: Qestion about Bash Fork Resource Temporily Unavailable for NS2.28 and NS2.27

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Dave Korn wrote:

> ----Original Message----
> >From: Brian Dessent
> >Sent: 08 July 2005 05:13
>
> > [ ... ] Symantec or Norton [ ... ]
>
>  MUST....RESTRAIN....FIST...OF...DEATH.......!

So *that's* who you've been all along.  I knew it, I knew it!
	Igor
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