* Re: suggestion (was Re: 1.7.7: Localization does not follow the language of the OS)
2011-01-13 13:08 ` suggestion (was Re: 1.7.7: Localization does not follow the language of the OS) Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
@ 2011-01-13 13:29 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-01-13 15:49 ` Christopher Faylor
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From: Corinna Vinschen @ 2011-01-13 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-talk
On Jan 13 08:07, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
> So if one wants to use something that always works, use $(). But when
I disagree, see below...
> `command` works, there is no reason not to use it if one wants to.
> Personally, I still use backticks fairly often.
> (1) On my keyboard, they are significantly easier to type than $().
> (2) It is a habit; $() did not exist when I started to learn scripting.
I use them almost exclusively on the command line, for the simple reason
that I'm using tcsh, which doesn't know the $() syntax. Therefore, from
*my* point of view as a tcsh user, "if one wants to use something that
always works, use backticks ;)
Corinna
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* Re: suggestion (was Re: 1.7.7: Localization does not follow the language of the OS)
2011-01-13 13:08 ` suggestion (was Re: 1.7.7: Localization does not follow the language of the OS) Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E]
2011-01-13 13:29 ` Corinna Vinschen
@ 2011-01-13 15:49 ` Christopher Faylor
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From: Christopher Faylor @ 2011-01-13 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-talk
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 08:07:20AM -0500, Buchbinder, Barry (NIH/NIAID) [E] wrote:
>Matthias Andree sent the following at Wednesday, January 12, 2011 8:55 AM
>>
>>Am 12.01.2011 11:55, schrieb Corinna Vinschen:
>>>> export LANG="$(locale -uU)" # (or -sU for system default locale)
>>>
>>> It's just another way to express the same. Backticks are not obsolete.
>>> The backtick style is exactly as much POSIX as the $() style. See
>>> http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.ht
>>> ml#tag_18
>>>
>>> Other than that, this isn't a mailing list about programming style.
>>
>>Try mixing backticks with quoting and blanks, or try nesting them,
>>and then you'll know it's not about style but pretty much about
>>functionality, hence, obsolete (whether it's labeled as such in the
>>standard or not - there is a better alternative).
>>
>>If it were equivalent, I hadn't posted this. It isn't.
>
>Actually, I would argue that sometimes they are equivalent and sometimes
>they are not. Think of it like physics. Newtonian mechanics and
>relativity are different. Relativity always gives the correct answer and
>Newtonian mechanics doesn't always do so, but we still use the older form
>when it does.
>
>So if one wants to use something that always works, use $(). But when
>`command` works, there is no reason not to use it if one wants to.
>Personally, I still use backticks fairly often.
> (1) On my keyboard, they are significantly easier to type than $().
> (2) It is a habit; $() did not exist when I started to learn scripting.
Big ditto.
I remember going to great lengths to work around ``'s lack of
nestability back in the old days and cursing the shell syntax for not
providing something better. Now that there is something better I always
forget to use it.
cgf
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