Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

[Holger Vogt]

Fergus,

I am running Cygwin Xfree on a computer which has never seen a regular 
Cygwin installation (Windows NT4). It takes about 10MB disk space.

All binaries (*.exe; *.dll) are in a directory D:\xfree\bin (8,1 MB). I 
have set a path to that directory in xfree_start.bat.

Besides that you need fonts and some locale information. I have 
therefore put the following directory tree onto the C: drive, because 
this drive seems to be searched automatically:

c:\usr\x11r6\lib\x11

/x11 contains the file rgb.txt and the two subdirectories /fonts and 
/locale.

/locale and its contents was just copied from the regular distribution, 
taking 423kB disk space.

/fonts contains only /100dpi /75dpi /Pex and /misc with 273kB disk space.

Then I start xfree with the xfree_start.bat file shown below. And that's 
probably all about it.

Regards

Holger





REM @echo off
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0

PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND

SET PATH=%PATH%;d:\xfree\bin

cd d:\xfree\bin

start /B XWin-Test98.exe -screen 0 1024 768  -emulate3buttons 50 -rootless
REM start /B XWin-Test98.exe -screen 0 1024 768  -emulate3buttons 50 
-multiwindow -clipboard

REM do not start xwinclip with -clipboard option
start /B xwinclip-Test08.exe

REM do not start window manager with -multiwindow option
run twm

run rxvt -bg yellow -sb -e sh
run rxvt -bg magenta -sb -e sh


xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr -fg white -bg black
xsetroot -solid cyan

run xmodmap xmodmap.de

cd..

Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk wrote:

> Fergus,
>
> I'm not sure iif it will help but theres a tool called dependency walker
> that shows all the files a program (or dll) depends on, and then their
> subdependencies, etc.
>
> http://www.dependencywalker.com/
>
> Jeremy

Whatever happened to good ol' cygcheck? ;-)
Although, DependencyWalker can show you dlopen'ed DLLs as well, IIRC.
	Igor
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Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

[Holger Vogt]

Fergus,

just to add:

C:\tmp will be the place you fing Xwin.log.

Regards

Holger

Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

[jeb]

Fergus,

I'm not sure iif it will help but theres a tool called dependency walker that shows all the files a program (or dll) depends on, and then their subdependencies, etc.

http://www.dependencywalker.com/

Jeremy

Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net wrote:

> I am attempting to mount and run a necessarily reduced Cygwin and selected
> applications from a 64MB USB stick drive. It's built incrementally (as
> follows: include a .exe in /bin; then, if that fails with a "missing .dll"
> message include the .dll too) and at approx 48MB usage including a massive
> statistics application program it works just fine.
>
> I'd like to include X (specifically xdvi.exe to read .dvi files). In this
> context the main system (i.e. complete Cygwin on a HD) is started by
>
>     start XWin -multiwindow
>     run rxvt -display localhost:0.0 -e bash
>     xdvi test.dvi
>
> (that's for 98SE: in XP I omit "start") and this works faultlessly.
>
> As far as I know all components necessary to achieve the same end are
> included on the stick (i.e. there are no more "missing .dll" announcements).
> Unfortunately I must be wrong because even before starting rxvt I find XWin
> is "very transient". By this I mean that after the command
> "XWin -multiwindow" the X icon appears briefly in the system tray in the
> taskbar, but then evaporates almost immediately. Then, of course, the rxvt
> line fails because the display cannot be found.
>
> I have tried any and all of XWin &, XWin -multiwindow &, running XWin after
> bash rather than before  ... I cannot get it to "stay".
>
> I am sorry not to have made my circumstances any clearer than they are (e.g.
> what's on the stick). AND I know it is disagreeable / impossible to offer
> advice for non-standard systems. I attach a cygcheck -srv in case it is
> obvious from that what further necessary component I still lack.
>
> Thank you for any help.
> Fergus

Fergus,

Since your goal is to save space, and unless you want to use X for other
things, you might consider using a Windows GUI dvi viewer, e.g., yap.exe
from the MiKTeX package, instead.  With all of its associated DLLs it's
just under 1M, and I doubt you can pare X down to take up so little space.

If you do need X, however, good luck.
	Igor
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				http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
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ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_		igor@watson.ibm.com
     |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'		Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D.
    '---''(_/--'  `-'\_) fL	a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-.  Meow!

"I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route
to the bathroom is a major career booster."  -- Patrick Naughton

Re: XWin: necessary internet access?

[Harold L Hunt II]

Fergus,

Please send in /tmp/XWin.log from the stick drive.  That should contain 
information about why XWin.exe is failing to start.

Harold

fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net wrote:

> I am attempting to mount and run a necessarily reduced Cygwin and selected
> applications from a 64MB USB stick drive. It's built incrementally (as
> follows: include a .exe in /bin; then, if that fails with a "missing .dll"
> message include the .dll too) and at approx 48MB usage including a massive
> statistics application program it works just fine.
> 
> I'd like to include X (specifically xdvi.exe to read .dvi files). In this
> context the main system (i.e. complete Cygwin on a HD) is started by
> 
>     start XWin -multiwindow
>     run rxvt -display localhost:0.0 -e bash
>     xdvi test.dvi
> 
> (that's for 98SE: in XP I omit "start") and this works faultlessly.
> 
> As far as I know all components necessary to achieve the same end are
> included on the stick (i.e. there are no more "missing .dll" announcements).
> Unfortunately I must be wrong because even before starting rxvt I find XWin
> is "very transient". By this I mean that after the command
> "XWin -multiwindow" the X icon appears briefly in the system tray in the
> taskbar, but then evaporates almost immediately. Then, of course, the rxvt
> line fails because the display cannot be found.
> 
> I have tried any and all of XWin &, XWin -multiwindow &, running XWin after
> bash rather than before  ... I cannot get it to "stay".
> 
> I am sorry not to have made my circumstances any clearer than they are (e.g.
> what's on the stick). AND I know it is disagreeable / impossible to offer
> advice for non-standard systems. I attach a cygcheck -srv in case it is
> obvious from that what further necessary component I still lack.
> 
> Thank you for any help.
> 
> Fergus

XWin: necessary internet access?

[fergus]

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I am attempting to mount and run a necessarily reduced Cygwin and selected
applications from a 64MB USB stick drive. It's built incrementally (as
follows: include a .exe in /bin; then, if that fails with a "missing .dll"
message include the .dll too) and at approx 48MB usage including a massive
statistics application program it works just fine.

I'd like to include X (specifically xdvi.exe to read .dvi files). In this
context the main system (i.e. complete Cygwin on a HD) is started by

    start XWin -multiwindow
    run rxvt -display localhost:0.0 -e bash
    xdvi test.dvi

(that's for 98SE: in XP I omit "start") and this works faultlessly.

As far as I know all components necessary to achieve the same end are
included on the stick (i.e. there are no more "missing .dll" announcements).
Unfortunately I must be wrong because even before starting rxvt I find XWin
is "very transient". By this I mean that after the command
"XWin -multiwindow" the X icon appears briefly in the system tray in the
taskbar, but then evaporates almost immediately. Then, of course, the rxvt
line fails because the display cannot be found.

I have tried any and all of XWin &, XWin -multiwindow &, running XWin after
bash rather than before  ... I cannot get it to "stay".

I am sorry not to have made my circumstances any clearer than they are (e.g.
what's on the stick). AND I know it is disagreeable / impossible to offer
advice for non-standard systems. I attach a cygcheck -srv in case it is
obvious from that what further necessary component I still lack.

Thank you for any help.

Fergus

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