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* Re: XWin: necessary internet access?
@ 2003-09-29 11:36 Holger Vogt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Holger Vogt @ 2003-09-29 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree
Fergus,
just to add:
C:\tmp will be the place you fing Xwin.log.
Regards
Holger
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* Re: XWin: necessary internet access?
2003-09-29 9:03 jeb
@ 2003-09-29 13:26 ` Igor Pechtchanski
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Igor Pechtchanski @ 2003-09-29 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 jeb@jeremywilkins.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
> Fergus,
>
> I'm not sure iif it will help but theres a tool called dependency walker
> that shows all the files a program (or dll) depends on, and then their
> subdependencies, etc.
>
> http://www.dependencywalker.com/
>
> Jeremy
Whatever happened to good ol' cygcheck? ;-)
Although, DependencyWalker can show you dlopen'ed DLLs as well, IIRC.
Igor
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* Re: XWin: necessary internet access?
@ 2003-09-29 11:28 Holger Vogt
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Holger Vogt @ 2003-09-29 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree
Fergus,
I am running Cygwin Xfree on a computer which has never seen a regular
Cygwin installation (Windows NT4). It takes about 10MB disk space.
All binaries (*.exe; *.dll) are in a directory D:\xfree\bin (8,1 MB). I
have set a path to that directory in xfree_start.bat.
Besides that you need fonts and some locale information. I have
therefore put the following directory tree onto the C: drive, because
this drive seems to be searched automatically:
c:\usr\x11r6\lib\x11
/x11 contains the file rgb.txt and the two subdirectories /fonts and
/locale.
/locale and its contents was just copied from the regular distribution,
taking 423kB disk space.
/fonts contains only /100dpi /75dpi /Pex and /misc with 273kB disk space.
Then I start xfree with the xfree_start.bat file shown below. And that's
probably all about it.
Regards
Holger
REM @echo off
SET DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
SET PATH=%PATH%;d:\xfree\bin
cd d:\xfree\bin
start /B XWin-Test98.exe -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50 -rootless
REM start /B XWin-Test98.exe -screen 0 1024 768 -emulate3buttons 50
-multiwindow -clipboard
REM do not start xwinclip with -clipboard option
start /B xwinclip-Test08.exe
REM do not start window manager with -multiwindow option
run twm
run rxvt -bg yellow -sb -e sh
run rxvt -bg magenta -sb -e sh
xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr -fg white -bg black
xsetroot -solid cyan
run xmodmap xmodmap.de
cd..
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* Re: XWin: necessary internet access?
@ 2003-09-29 9:03 jeb
2003-09-29 13:26 ` Igor Pechtchanski
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: jeb @ 2003-09-29 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree
Fergus,
I'm not sure iif it will help but theres a tool called dependency walker that shows all the files a program (or dll) depends on, and then their subdependencies, etc.
http://www.dependencywalker.com/
Jeremy
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* Re: XWin: necessary internet access?
2003-09-28 20:57 fergus
2003-09-28 21:09 ` Harold L Hunt II
@ 2003-09-29 5:20 ` Igor Pechtchanski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Igor Pechtchanski @ 2003-09-29 5:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree, fergus
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net wrote:
> I am attempting to mount and run a necessarily reduced Cygwin and selected
> applications from a 64MB USB stick drive. It's built incrementally (as
> follows: include a .exe in /bin; then, if that fails with a "missing .dll"
> message include the .dll too) and at approx 48MB usage including a massive
> statistics application program it works just fine.
>
> I'd like to include X (specifically xdvi.exe to read .dvi files). In this
> context the main system (i.e. complete Cygwin on a HD) is started by
>
> start XWin -multiwindow
> run rxvt -display localhost:0.0 -e bash
> xdvi test.dvi
>
> (that's for 98SE: in XP I omit "start") and this works faultlessly.
>
> As far as I know all components necessary to achieve the same end are
> included on the stick (i.e. there are no more "missing .dll" announcements).
> Unfortunately I must be wrong because even before starting rxvt I find XWin
> is "very transient". By this I mean that after the command
> "XWin -multiwindow" the X icon appears briefly in the system tray in the
> taskbar, but then evaporates almost immediately. Then, of course, the rxvt
> line fails because the display cannot be found.
>
> I have tried any and all of XWin &, XWin -multiwindow &, running XWin after
> bash rather than before ... I cannot get it to "stay".
>
> I am sorry not to have made my circumstances any clearer than they are (e.g.
> what's on the stick). AND I know it is disagreeable / impossible to offer
> advice for non-standard systems. I attach a cygcheck -srv in case it is
> obvious from that what further necessary component I still lack.
>
> Thank you for any help.
> Fergus
Fergus,
Since your goal is to save space, and unless you want to use X for other
things, you might consider using a Windows GUI dvi viewer, e.g., yap.exe
from the MiKTeX package, instead. With all of its associated DLLs it's
just under 1M, and I doubt you can pare X down to take up so little space.
If you do need X, however, good luck.
Igor
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* Re: XWin: necessary internet access?
2003-09-28 20:57 fergus
@ 2003-09-28 21:09 ` Harold L Hunt II
2003-09-29 5:20 ` Igor Pechtchanski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Harold L Hunt II @ 2003-09-28 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree
Fergus,
Please send in /tmp/XWin.log from the stick drive. That should contain
information about why XWin.exe is failing to start.
Harold
fergus@bonhard.uklinux.net wrote:
> I am attempting to mount and run a necessarily reduced Cygwin and selected
> applications from a 64MB USB stick drive. It's built incrementally (as
> follows: include a .exe in /bin; then, if that fails with a "missing .dll"
> message include the .dll too) and at approx 48MB usage including a massive
> statistics application program it works just fine.
>
> I'd like to include X (specifically xdvi.exe to read .dvi files). In this
> context the main system (i.e. complete Cygwin on a HD) is started by
>
> start XWin -multiwindow
> run rxvt -display localhost:0.0 -e bash
> xdvi test.dvi
>
> (that's for 98SE: in XP I omit "start") and this works faultlessly.
>
> As far as I know all components necessary to achieve the same end are
> included on the stick (i.e. there are no more "missing .dll" announcements).
> Unfortunately I must be wrong because even before starting rxvt I find XWin
> is "very transient". By this I mean that after the command
> "XWin -multiwindow" the X icon appears briefly in the system tray in the
> taskbar, but then evaporates almost immediately. Then, of course, the rxvt
> line fails because the display cannot be found.
>
> I have tried any and all of XWin &, XWin -multiwindow &, running XWin after
> bash rather than before ... I cannot get it to "stay".
>
> I am sorry not to have made my circumstances any clearer than they are (e.g.
> what's on the stick). AND I know it is disagreeable / impossible to offer
> advice for non-standard systems. I attach a cygcheck -srv in case it is
> obvious from that what further necessary component I still lack.
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
> Fergus
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* XWin: necessary internet access?
@ 2003-09-28 20:57 fergus
2003-09-28 21:09 ` Harold L Hunt II
2003-09-29 5:20 ` Igor Pechtchanski
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: fergus @ 2003-09-28 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin-xfree; +Cc: fergus
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1585 bytes --]
I am attempting to mount and run a necessarily reduced Cygwin and selected
applications from a 64MB USB stick drive. It's built incrementally (as
follows: include a .exe in /bin; then, if that fails with a "missing .dll"
message include the .dll too) and at approx 48MB usage including a massive
statistics application program it works just fine.
I'd like to include X (specifically xdvi.exe to read .dvi files). In this
context the main system (i.e. complete Cygwin on a HD) is started by
start XWin -multiwindow
run rxvt -display localhost:0.0 -e bash
xdvi test.dvi
(that's for 98SE: in XP I omit "start") and this works faultlessly.
As far as I know all components necessary to achieve the same end are
included on the stick (i.e. there are no more "missing .dll" announcements).
Unfortunately I must be wrong because even before starting rxvt I find XWin
is "very transient". By this I mean that after the command
"XWin -multiwindow" the X icon appears briefly in the system tray in the
taskbar, but then evaporates almost immediately. Then, of course, the rxvt
line fails because the display cannot be found.
I have tried any and all of XWin &, XWin -multiwindow &, running XWin after
bash rather than before ... I cannot get it to "stay".
I am sorry not to have made my circumstances any clearer than they are (e.g.
what's on the stick). AND I know it is disagreeable / impossible to offer
advice for non-standard systems. I attach a cygcheck -srv in case it is
obvious from that what further necessary component I still lack.
Thank you for any help.
Fergus
[-- Attachment #2: cygcheck.out --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 9929 bytes --]
Cygwin Win95/NT Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Sun Sep 28 09:52:27 2003
Windows XP Professional Ver 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1
Path: f:\home\user\bin
f:\usr\local\bin
f:\usr\X11R6\bin
f:\bin
f:\bin
.
Output from f:\bin\id.exe (nontsec)
UID: 400(Administrator) GID: 401(mkpasswd)
401(mkpasswd)
Output from f:\bin\id.exe (ntsec)
UID: 400(Administrator) GID: 401(mkpasswd)
401(mkpasswd)
SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\System32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS
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CLIENTNAME = `Console'
COLORFGBG = `0;default;15'
COLORTERM = `rxvt-xpm'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = `C:\Program Files\Common Files'
COMPUTERNAME = `LEPER'
COMSPEC = `C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
DISPLAY = `:0'
HOMEDRIVE = `C:'
HOMEPATH = `\Documents and Settings\Administrator'
LOGONSERVER = `\\LEPER'
MOLE_ON_CD = `1'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = `1'
OLDPWD = `/'
OS = `Windows_NT'
PATHEXT = `.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
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PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = `x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel'
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Cygdrive default prefix:
Build date: Sat Sep 20 16:31:15 EDT 2003
CVS tag: cr-0x9b
Shared id: cygwin1S3
Cygwin Package Information
No setup information found
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