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* Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
@ 2013-10-02 18:50 Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-02 22:51 ` Ryan Johnson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-02 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

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I am currently using the X server on a Windows 7 64 bit host for
Firefox (in particular, occasional terminals too).  While everything
works, I am experiencing very severe memory page faulting causing the
graphical interface to appear to hang for several seconds at a time,
and when not appearing hung, responsiveness is very painfully slow,
sometimes to the extent that I will type a paragraph and then sit back
and watch as the graphical interface slowly displays what I typed at a
rate of 1-2 characters per second.  This seems to be more pronounced
with more tabs open in Firefox, even when nothing has been loaded in
the tabs.  More separate windows also has the same result.

At first, I thought I was simply out of memory; however, I checked
task manager and found that my windows host had more than 500 MB free
and roughly 1 GB used for cache for a total of 1.5 GB available.
Looking at the processes list, I found the Page Fault Delta for the
Xwin.exe process was often greater than 10K when I was experiencing
the poor responsiveness and greater than 30K when experiencing the
temporary hangs.

I've also tested this immediately after a full reboot, when I had >3GB
available and >2GB free ram with the same results.  During all of
these tests, the memory Working Set, Private Working Set, and Commit
Size never seem to reach, let alone exceed, 50 MB.

I went through all of the options listed in the doc for the Xwin
binary, and was unable to find anything that seemed even remotely
related.  I am also unable to reproduce this with other X servers, so
currently have to assume it is something I'm setting up incorrectly or
something within the Xwin binary.

Testing with antivirus and firewall enabled/disabled did not affect
the results.  (faq reference
http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#poor-performance found
during searches).  Also tested with and without tunneling though ssh
with no difference in the results.

In further testing, I have reproduced this on Windows 7 64 bit with
both the 32 and 64 bit builds of Xwin, and on Windows XP (32 and 64
bit) with both the 32 and 64 bit builds of Xwin.

machine 1 hardware for testing
Intel Core 2 Duo (e8600 @ 3.3 GHz)
4 GB ram
ATI Radeon HD 3470 (2 GB ram)
tested with Windows 7 64 bit and Windows XP 32 bit

machine 2 hardware for testing
Intel Core 2 Duo (e8600 @ 3.3 GHz)
8 GB ram
ATI Radeon HD 3470 (2 GB ram)
tested with Windows XP 64 bit

google searched used without useful results:
Xwin extreme memory page fault
Xwin excessive memory page fault
Xwin memory page fault
Xwin page fault
Xwin hang memory
Xwin pause memory
Xwin slow memory

Searched the mailing list archives for the same terms minus "Xwin" and
also did not get any useful results.  (nearest to useful faq reference
noted above).

I'm willing to reconfigure and retest with new parameters, but I've
run out of ideas myself on how to resolve the extreme memory page
faulting the Xwin binary is doing.  For that matter, I'm willing to
change settings in source files and recompile, but I'm not a
programmer and don't really know what I'm looking at in the source
files...

Thank you in advance for your time and expertise in pointing me in the
correct direction to continue tracing this issue.

--- Erik




--
"I do not think any of us are truly sane, Caleb. Not even you. Courage
is not sanity. Being willing to die for someone else is not sanity."
... "Love is not sane, nor is faith." ... "If sanity lacks those
things, Caleb, I want no part of it."

-- Alexandria Terri in "Weaving the Wyvern" by Alexis Desiree Thorne
- http://alexisthorne.webs.com/

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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Wed Oct 02 17:54:42 2013

Windows 7 Professional N Ver 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1

Path:	C:\cygwin64\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin64\bin
	C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Microsoft Online Services
	C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Microsoft Online Services
	C:\windows\bin
	C:\Windows\system32
	C:\Windows
	C:\Windows\System32\Wbem
	C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0
	C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static
	C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\DLLShared
	C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\DLLShared

Output from C:\cygwin64\bin\id.exe
UID: 65850(username_redacted)      GID: 10513(Domain Users)
10513(Domain Users)      0(root)                  544(Administrators)
545(Users)

SysDir: C:\Windows\system32
WinDir: C:\Windows

USER = 'username_redacted'
PWD = '/home/username_redacted'
CYGWIN = 'ntsec binmode smbntsec'
HOME = '/home/username_redacted'

HOMEPATH = '\Users\username_redacted'
MANPATH = '/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/man::/usr/ssl/man'
APPDATA = 'C:\Users\username_redacted\AppData\Roaming'
ProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files'
HOSTNAME = 'hostname_redacted'
SHELL = '/bin/bash'
TERM = 'xterm'
RoxioCentral = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Roxio Shared\10.0\Roxio Central36\'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'Intel64 Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel'
WINDIR = 'C:\Windows'
MOZ_NO_REMOTE = '1'
PUBLIC = 'C:\Users\Public'
OLDPWD = '/cygdrive/z'
USERDOMAIN = 'domain_redacted'
CommonProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\ProgramData'
windows_tracing_flags = '3'
windows_tracing_logfile = 'C:\BVTBin\Tests\installpackage\csilogfile.log'
!:: = '::\'
temp = 'C:\Users\username_redacted\AppData\Local\Temp'
DEFLOGDIR = 'C:\ProgramData\McAfee\DesktopProtection'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
TMP = '/tmp'
USERNAME = 'username_redacted'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '6'
ProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)'
PSModulePath = 'C:\Windows\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules\'
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = 'NO'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
LANG = 'en_US.UTF-8'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Users\username_redacted'
TZ = 'America/New_York'
PS1 = '\[\e]0;\w\a\]\n\[\e[32m\]\u@\h \[\e[33m\]\w\[\e[0m\]\n\$ '
LOGONSERVER = '\\login_host_redacted'
CommonProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'AMD64'
LOCALAPPDATA = 'C:\Users\username_redacted\AppData\Local'
ProgramData = 'C:\ProgramData'
SHLVL = '1'
USERDNSDOMAIN = 'dns_domain_redacted'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC'
HOMEDRIVE = 'C:'
COMSPEC = 'C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\Windows'
PRINTER = 'Ricoh Aficio MP 6000 PS'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '170a'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info:'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
DISPLAY = ':9'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '2'
VSEDEFLOGDIR = 'C:\ProgramData\McAfee\DesktopProtection'
asl.log = 'Destination=file'
SESSIONNAME = 'Console'
COMPUTERNAME = 'hostname_redacted'
_ = '/usr/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\setup
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SimonTatham\PuTTY\Sessions\cygwin%20session
  (default) = 0x00000001
  HostName = 'localhost'
  LogFileName = '&H -- &Y-&M-&D--&T.log'
  LogType = 0x00000002
  LogFileClash = 0x00000000
  LogFlush = 0x00000001
  SSHLogOmitPasswords = 0x00000000
  SSHLogOmitData = 0x00000000
  Protocol = 'ssh'
  PortNumber = 0x00000016
  CloseOnExit = 0x00000001
  WarnOnClose = 0x00000001
  PingInterval = 0x00000000
  PingIntervalSecs = 0x00000000
  TCPNoDelay = 0x00000001
  TCPKeepalives = 0x00000000
  TerminalType = 'linux'
  TerminalSpeed = '38400,38400'
  TerminalModes = 'INTR=A,QUIT=A,ERASE=A,KILL=A,EOF=A,EOL=A,EOL2=A,START=A,STOP=A,SUSP=A,DSUSP=A,REPRINT=A,WERASE=A,LNEXT=A,FLUSH=A,SWTCH=A,STATUS=A,DISCARD=A,IGNPAR=A,PARMRK=A,INPCK=A,ISTRIP=A,INLCR=A,IGNCR=A,ICRNL=A,IUCLC=A,IXON=A,IXANY=A,IXOFF=A,IMAXBEL=A,ISIG=A,ICANON=A,XCASE=A,ECHO=A,ECHOE=A,ECHOK=A,ECHONL=A,NOFLSH=A,TOSTOP=A,IEXTEN=A,ECHOCTL=A,ECHOKE=A,PENDIN=A,OPOST=A,OLCUC=A,ONLCR=A,OCRNL=A,ONOCR=A,ONLRET=A,CS7=A,CS8=A,PARENB=A,PARODD=A,'
  AddressFamily = 0x00000000
  ProxyExcludeList = ''
  ProxyDNS = 0x00000001
  ProxyLocalhost = 0x00000000
  ProxyMethod = 0x00000000
  ProxyHost = 'proxy'
  ProxyPort = 0x00000050
  ProxyUsername = ''
  ProxyPassword = ''
  ProxyTelnetCommand = 'connect %host %port\n'
  Environment = ''
  UserName = 'username_redacted'
  UserNameFromEnvironment = 0x00000000
  LocalUserName = ''
  NoPTY = 0x00000000
  Compression = 0x00000001
  TryAgent = 0x00000001
  AgentFwd = 0x00000000
  GssapiFwd = 0x00000000
  ChangeUsername = 0x00000000
  Cipher = 'aes,blowfish,WARN,3des,des,arcfour'
  KEX = 'dh-gex-sha1,dh-group14-sha1,dh-group1-sha1,rsa,WARN'
  RekeyTime = 0x0000003c
  RekeyBytes = '1G'
  SshNoAuth = 0x00000000
  SshBanner = 0x00000001
  AuthTIS = 0x00000000
  AuthKI = 0x00000001
  AuthGSSAPI = 0x00000001
  GSSLibs = 'gssapi32,sspi,custom'
  GSSCustom = ''
  SshNoShell = 0x00000000
  SshProt = 0x00000002
  LogHost = ''
  SSH2DES = 0x00000000
  PublicKeyFile = 'C:\Documents and Settings\username_redacted\My Documents\.ssh\priv.ppk'
  RemoteCommand = ''
  RFCEnviron = 0x00000000
  PassiveTelnet = 0x00000000
  BackspaceIsDelete = 0x00000000
  RXVTHomeEnd = 0x00000000
  LinuxFunctionKeys = 0x00000001
  NoApplicationKeys = 0x00000000
  NoApplicationCursors = 0x00000000
  NoMouseReporting = 0x00000000
  NoRemoteResize = 0x00000000
  NoAltScreen = 0x00000000
  NoRemoteWinTitle = 0x00000000
  RemoteQTitleAction = 0x00000001
  NoDBackspace = 0x00000000
  NoRemoteCharset = 0x00000000
  ApplicationCursorKeys = 0x00000000
  ApplicationKeypad = 0x00000000
  NetHackKeypad = 0x00000000
  AltF4 = 0x00000001
  AltSpace = 0x00000000
  AltOnly = 0x00000000
  ComposeKey = 0x00000000
  CtrlAltKeys = 0x00000001
  TelnetKey = 0x00000000
  TelnetRet = 0x00000001
  LocalEcho = 0x00000002
  LocalEdit = 0x00000002
  Answerback = 'PuTTY'
  AlwaysOnTop = 0x00000000
  FullScreenOnAltEnter = 0x00000000
  HideMousePtr = 0x00000000
  SunkenEdge = 0x00000000
  WindowBorder = 0x00000001
  CurType = 0x00000000
  BlinkCur = 0x00000001
  Beep = 0x00000001
  BeepInd = 0x00000000
  BellWaveFile = ''
  BellOverload = 0x00000001
  BellOverloadN = 0x00000005
  BellOverloadT = 0x000007d0
  BellOverloadS = 0x00001388
  ScrollbackLines = 0x00001388
  DECOriginMode = 0x00000000
  AutoWrapMode = 0x00000001
  LFImpliesCR = 0x00000000
  CRImpliesLF = 0x00000000
  DisableArabicShaping = 0x00000000
  DisableBidi = 0x00000000
  WinNameAlways = 0x00000001
  WinTitle = ''
  TermWidth = 0x00000050
  TermHeight = 0x00000018
  Font = 'Courier New'
  FontIsBold = 0x00000000
  FontCharSet = 0x00000000
  FontHeight = 0x0000000b
  FontQuality = 0x00000000
  FontVTMode = 0x00000004
  UseSystemColours = 0x00000000
  TryPalette = 0x00000000
  ANSIColour = 0x00000001
  Xterm256Colour = 0x00000001
  BoldAsColour = 0x00000001
  Colour0 = '87,87,87'
  Colour1 = '255,255,255'
  Colour2 = '140,140,140'
  Colour3 = '85,85,85'
  Colour4 = '0,0,0'
  Colour5 = '0,255,0'
  Colour6 = '0,0,0'
  Colour7 = '85,85,85'
  Colour8 = '187,0,0'
  Colour9 = '255,85,85'
  Colour10 = '0,187,0'
  Colour11 = '85,255,85'
  Colour12 = '187,187,0'
  Colour13 = '255,255,85'
  Colour14 = '0,0,187'
  Colour15 = '85,85,255'
  Colour16 = '187,0,187'
  Colour17 = '255,85,255'
  Colour18 = '0,187,187'
  Colour19 = '85,255,255'
  Colour20 = '187,187,187'
  Colour21 = '255,255,255'
  RawCNP = 0x00000000
  PasteRTF = 0x00000000
  MouseIsXterm = 0x00000000
  RectSelect = 0x00000000
  MouseOverride = 0x00000001
  Wordness0 = '0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0'
  Wordness32 = '0,1,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1'
  Wordness64 = '1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,2'
  Wordness96 = '1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1'
  Wordness128 = '1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1'
  Wordness160 = '1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1'
  Wordness192 = '2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2'
  Wordness224 = '2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,1,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2'
  LineCodePage = ''
  CJKAmbigWide = 0x00000000
  UTF8Override = 0x00000001
  Printer = ''
  CapsLockCyr = 0x00000000
  ScrollBar = 0x00000001
  ScrollBarFullScreen = 0x00000000
  ScrollOnKey = 0x00000000
  ScrollOnDisp = 0x00000001
  EraseToScrollback = 0x00000001
  LockSize = 0x00000000
  BCE = 0x00000001
  BlinkText = 0x00000000
  X11Forward = 0x00000000
  X11Display = ''
  X11AuthType = 0x00000001
  X11AuthFile = ''
  LocalPortAcceptAll = 0x00000000
  RemotePortAcceptAll = 0x00000000
  PortForwardings = ''
  BugIgnore1 = 0x00000000
  BugPlainPW1 = 0x00000000
  BugRSA1 = 0x00000000
  BugIgnore2 = 0x00000000
  BugHMAC2 = 0x00000000
  BugDeriveKey2 = 0x00000000
  BugRSAPad2 = 0x00000000
  BugPKSessID2 = 0x00000000
  BugRekey2 = 0x00000000
  BugMaxPkt2 = 0x00000000
  StampUtmp = 0x00000001
  LoginShell = 0x00000001
  ScrollbarOnLeft = 0x00000000
  BoldFont = ''
  BoldFontIsBold = 0x003b0410
  BoldFontCharSet = 0x0046f79c
  BoldFontHeight = 0x0012ffb0
  WideFont = ''
  WideFontIsBold = 0xdce68d6e
  WideFontCharSet = 0x003b0410
  WideFontHeight = 0x0012fa34
  WideBoldFont = ''
  WideBoldFontIsBold = 0x0077654e
  WideBoldFontCharSet = 0xdce68d6e
  WideBoldFontHeight = 0x003b0178
  ShadowBold = 0x00000000
  ShadowBoldOffset = 0x00000001
  SerialLine = 'COM1'
  SerialSpeed = 0x00002580
  SerialDataBits = 0x00000008
  SerialStopHalfbits = 0x00000002
  SerialParity = 0x00000000
  SerialFlowControl = 0x00000001
  WindowClass = ''
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\DefaultIcon
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64\bin\xlaunch.exe,1'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell\Edit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell\Edit\command
  (default) = '"C:\cygwin64\bin\run" "C:\cygwin64\bin\bash" -l -c "xlaunch -load \"%1\""'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell\Open
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\XLaunch.cygwin\Shell\Open\command
  (default) = '"C:\cygwin64\bin\run" "C:\cygwin64\bin\bash" -l -c "xlaunch -run  \"%1\""'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin'
  0e67d83b48044069 = '\??\C:\windows'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Tracing\cygwin_setup_RASAPI32
  (default) = 0x00000000
  EnableConsoleTracing = 0x00000000
  FileTracingMask = 0xffff0000
  ConsoleTracingMask = 0xffff0000
  MaxFileSize = 0x00100000
  FileDirectory = '%windir%\tracing'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Tracing\cygwin_setup_RASMANCS
  (default) = 0x00000000
  EnableConsoleTracing = 0x00000000
  FileTracingMask = 0xffff0000
  ConsoleTracingMask = 0xffff0000
  MaxFileSize = 0x00100000
  FileDirectory = '%windir%\tracing'

obcaseinsensitive set to 1

Cygwin installations found in the registry:
  System: Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64

c:  hd  NTFS    238414Mb 100% CP CS UN PA FC     OS_N_APPS
d:  hd  NTFS    238414Mb  55% CP CS UN PA FC     OS_N_APPS
e:  cd             N/A    N/A                    
z:  net NTFS    102400Mb  72% CP CS UN PA        UsersVantageCore

C:\cygwin64      /          system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\bin  /usr/bin   system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\lib  /usr/lib   system  binary,auto
cygdrive prefix  /cygdrive  user    binary,posix=0,auto

Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\awk
 -> C:\cygwin64\bin\gawk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\cat.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\cat.exe hides C:\windows\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cp.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\cp.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\cp.exe hides C:\windows\bin\cp.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\crontab.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe hides C:\windows\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\find.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\grep.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\grep.exe hides C:\windows\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\kill.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\kill.exe hides C:\windows\bin\kill.exe
Not Found: ld
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\ls.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe hides C:\windows\bin\ls.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\make.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\mv.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\mv.exe hides C:\windows\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\patch.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\perl.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\perl.exe hides C:\windows\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\rm.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\rm.exe hides C:\windows\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\sed.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\sed.exe hides C:\windows\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ssh.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\ssh.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\ssh.exe hides C:\windows\bin\ssh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\sh.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe hides C:\windows\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\tar.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe hides C:\windows\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\test.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\test.exe hides C:\windows\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe
Found: C:\windows\bin\vi.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe hides C:\windows\bin\vi.exe
Not Found: vim

 2568k 2013/06/23 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygasn1-8.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygasn1-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:23
   16k 2013/03/26 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygattr-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygattr-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-26 18:26
   64k 2013/03/07 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-07 02:54
  981k 2013/07/23 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-07-23 20:10
   26k 2013/07/23 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-gobject-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-gobject-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-07-23 20:10
  122k 2013/07/23 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcairo-script-interpreter-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcairo-script-interpreter-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-07-23 20:10
   12k 2013/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcom_err-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcom_err-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-11 03:59
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Release: 1.14.2.0
OS: CYGWIN_NT-6.1 hostname_redacted 1.7.25(0.270/5/3) 2013-08-31 20:37 x86_64
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 [Windows NT 6.1 build 7601](Win64)
Package: version 1.14.2-2 built 2013-08-02

XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/bin/XWin -nomultiplemonitors -bs -hostintitle -multiwindow 
 -clipboard -wgl :8 

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
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winInitializeScreenDefaults - native DPI x 96 y 96
[3779835.631] (II) xorg.conf is not supported
[3779835.631] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
[3779835.631] LoadPreferences: /home/username_redacted/.XWinrc not found
[3779835.631] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc
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[3779835.912] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock ()
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[3779835.928] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel
[3779835.943] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[3779835.943] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, removing from list!
[3779835.943] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
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[3779836.162] winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned.
[3779836.162] winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=:8.0
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[3779836.162] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned.
[3779836.162] winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.
[3779836.162] winClipboardThreadProc - DISPLAY=:8.0
[3779836.162] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=:8.0
[3779836.162] winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
[3779836.162] winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-02 18:50 Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-02 22:51 ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-02 23:55   ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Johnson @ 2013-10-02 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 02/10/2013 2:50 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
> I am currently using the X server on a Windows 7 64 bit host for
> Firefox (in particular, occasional terminals too).  While everything
> works, I am experiencing very severe memory page faulting causing the
> graphical interface to appear to hang for several seconds at a time,
> and when not appearing hung, responsiveness is very painfully slow,
> sometimes to the extent that I will type a paragraph and then sit back
> and watch as the graphical interface slowly displays what I typed at a
> rate of 1-2 characters per second.
Is there really a Firefox build for cygwin/X ? Or are you tunneling from 
some other machine?

> Testing with antivirus and firewall enabled/disabled did not affect
> the results.  (faq reference
> http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#poor-performance found
> during searches).
If antivirus is a problem (as in BLODA), you probably need to uninstall, 
not just disable. They're usually too lazy to actually remove their 
hooks when "off" and just (try to) make the hooks become (mostly) no-ops 
instead. Not saying it's your problem, necessarily, just that merely 
disabling AV is not enough to rule it out.

Also (not necessarily related to this particular problem), cygcheck 
reports a surprising selection of *nix-like utilities in c:\windows\bin. 
Whatever they are, they can't be helping.

I doubt it's an X-server code issue. You tried it on too many machines 
with problems, and too many other people aren't spamming the list about 
this, which suggests it's something on your side (like BLODA). Further, 
the only cygwin bug I've known to cause lots of paging was plugged 
months ago (it had to do with sparse executable files and should have 
been irrelevant for this situation anyway).

My advice: check out the cygwin FAQ about BLODA, uninstall anything 
listed there (or install a fresh VM image somewhere without those) and 
try again. If it's still a problem, somebody more familiar with X than 
me will have to take over...

Ryan


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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-02 22:51 ` Ryan Johnson
@ 2013-10-02 23:55   ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 14:01     ` Ryan Johnson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-02 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Ryan Johnson
<ryan.johnson@cs.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> On 02/10/2013 2:50 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
>>
>> I am currently using the X server on a Windows 7 64 bit host for
>> Firefox (in particular, occasional terminals too).
<snip>
> Is there really a Firefox build for cygwin/X ? Or are you tunneling from
> some other machine?

My apologies; Firefox is running on a CentOS host and I have tried
both raw X and tunneled through ssh.  I am currently tunneling though
ssh as the raw X was a test only to see if it was a tunnel issue.

>
>> Testing with antivirus and firewall enabled/disabled did not affect
>> the results.  (faq reference
>> http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#poor-performance found
>> during searches).
>
> If antivirus is a problem (as in BLODA), you probably need to uninstall, not
> just disable. They're usually too lazy to actually remove their hooks when
> "off" and just (try to) make the hooks become (mostly) no-ops instead. Not
> saying it's your problem, necessarily, just that merely disabling AV is not
> enough to rule it out.
>

Unfortunately, uninstall is not an option for me.  Corporate Policy
prevents it on several levels.  However, my disable of the
A/V-firewall packages was by going into the Windows Services applets
and disabling the services there and via a couple registry hacks and
then rebooting so the A/V and firewall pieces could not load to start
with.  They are as ruled out as I can make them currently.  I will
look into the possibility of a VM to test without them entirely and
see if i can still reproduce the issue.

> Also (not necessarily related to this particular problem), cygcheck reports
> a surprising selection of *nix-like utilities in c:\windows\bin. Whatever
> they are, they can't be helping.

Those existed only on the current test machine.  In theory, since they
are later in the path in the cygwin environment, they should never be
executed unless called by full path, but I do appreciate it being
pointed out.  I should have mentioned their existence on this machine
to start with.

> I doubt it's an X-server code issue. You tried it on too many machines with
> problems, and too many other people aren't spamming the list about this,
> which suggests it's something on your side (like BLODA). Further, the only
> cygwin bug I've known to cause lots of paging was plugged months ago (it had
> to do with sparse executable files and should have been irrelevant for this
> situation anyway).

The only (known) BLODA I have from that list is the McAfee
A/V-firewall, which I can't remove, but I believe was completely
disabled by the above described method.

> My advice: check out the cygwin FAQ about BLODA, uninstall anything listed
> there (or install a fresh VM image somewhere without those) and try again.
> If it's still a problem, somebody more familiar with X than me will have to
> take over...
>

> Ryan

If I can get the authorization for a VM test without A/V, I will and
the results will be posted here either way.  Thank you for your time
in looking at this.

--- Erik

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-02 23:55   ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-03 14:01     ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-03 15:44       ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Johnson @ 2013-10-03 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 02/10/2013 7:55 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Ryan Johnson
> <ryan.johnson@cs.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>> I doubt it's an X-server code issue. You tried it on too many machines with
>> problems, and too many other people aren't spamming the list about this,
>> which suggests it's something on your side (like BLODA). Further, the only
>> cygwin bug I've known to cause lots of paging was plugged months ago (it had
>> to do with sparse executable files and should have been irrelevant for this
>> situation anyway).
> The only (known) BLODA I have from that list is the McAfee
> A/V-firewall, which I can't remove, but I believe was completely
> disabled by the above described method.
Unfortunately, McAfee is one of the worst offenders in my experience 
[1]. I seriously doubt you can disable it completely from user space, 
given its habits of interposing on device drivers and burrowing into 
other kernel bits [2].

[1] IMO it's a cure that's worse than the disease, but that's a rant for 
a different thread.

[2] McAfee actually sued MS for "anticompetitive" behavior a while back, 
after the latter closed a bunch of security loopholes in the kernel that 
virus-writers love but McAfee also depended on (including the interrupt 
dispatch table IIRC).

>> My advice: check out the cygwin FAQ about BLODA, uninstall anything listed
>> there (or install a fresh VM image somewhere without those) and try again.
>> If it's still a problem, somebody more familiar with X than me will have to
>> take over...
>>
> If I can get the authorization for a VM test without A/V, I will and
> the results will be posted here either way.  Thank you for your time
> in looking at this.
Good luck!

Ryan


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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 14:01     ` Ryan Johnson
@ 2013-10-03 15:44       ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 16:21         ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 16:27         ` Ryan Johnson
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 15:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

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<snip>
>> The only (known) BLODA I have from that list is the McAfee
>> A/V-firewall, which I can't remove, but I believe was completely
>> disabled by the above described method.
>
> Unfortunately, McAfee is one of the worst offenders in my experience [1]. I
> seriously doubt you can disable it completely from user space, given its
> habits of interposing on device drivers and burrowing into other kernel bits
> [2].
>
> [1] IMO it's a cure that's worse than the disease, but that's a rant for a
> different thread.
>
> [2] McAfee actually sued MS for "anticompetitive" behavior a while back,
> after the latter closed a bunch of security loopholes in the kernel that
> virus-writers love but McAfee also depended on (including the interrupt
> dispatch table IIRC).
>

... So fixing security failures is 'anticompetitive' in McAfee's
book??  Wow...  That is the kind of business that if i had the funds I
would buy just to dismantle... I knew they were bad but didn't know
they were *that* bad.

<snip>
>>> there (or install a fresh VM image somewhere without those) and try
>>> again.  If it's still a problem, somebody more familiar with X than me
>>> will have to take over...
>>>
>> If I can get the authorization for a VM test without A/V, I will and
>> the results will be posted here either way.  Thank you for your time
>> in looking at this.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Ryan
>

Installed a fresh VM with a Windows XP 64 bit ISO, sp2 already
applied.  VM has 512 MB ram, and the only package I installed after
the OS was cygwin.  Issue presents in this environment as soon as
Firefox connects/starts.  Page Faults Delta over 5,000 minimum anytime
I'm doing anything in Firefox, including typing this message, usually
over 10,000.

Then I went to the services applet and started disabling anything not
needed to run the X server and get the connection to/from the remote
host.  Once nearly everything was disabled, i rebooted the VM.
Currently there are only four Windows services running.  They are:
"CYGWIN sshd," "DHCP Client," "Plug and Play," and "Remote Procedure
Call (RPC)."  Issue still presents.  I've attached the XWin log and
the cygcheck output from the VM.

--- Erik

[-- Attachment #2: vm_XWin.4.log --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 5129 bytes --]

Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 1.14.3.0
OS: CYGWIN_NT-5.2 test-f9c3deaa35 1.7.25(0.270/5/3) 2013-08-31 20:37 x86_64
OS: Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 [Windows NT 5.2 build 3790](Win64)
Package: version 1.14.3-1 built 2013-09-16

XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/bin/XWin -nomultiplemonitors -bs -hostintitle -multiwindow 
 -clipboard -wgl :4 

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeScreenDefaults - primary monitor w 1024 h 768
winInitializeScreenDefaults - native DPI x 96 y 96
_XSERVTransSocketOpenCOTSServer: Unable to open socket for inet6
_XSERVTransOpen: transport open failed for inet6/test-f9c3deaa35:4
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to open listener for inet6
[   245.828] (II) xorg.conf is not supported
[   245.828] (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
[   245.843] LoadPreferences: /home/Administrator/.XWinrc not found
[   245.859] LoadPreferences: Loading /etc/X11/system.XWinrc
[   245.906] LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file...
[   246.062] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed, allowing ShadowDD
[   246.062] winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT, allowing PrimaryDD
[   246.078] winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed, allowing ShadowDDNL
[   246.078] winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0000001f
[   246.078] winPropertyStoreInit - Could not get SHGetPropertyStoreForWindow address
[   246.078] winSetEngine - Multi Window or Rootless => ShadowGDI
[   246.093] winScreenInit - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
[   246.109] winAllocateFBShadowGDI - Creating DIB with width: 1024 height: 768 depth: 32
[   246.109] winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff
[   246.109] winInitVisualsShadowGDI - Masks 00ff0000 0000ff00 000000ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32
[   246.156] winInitMultiWindowWM - Calling pthread_mutex_lock ()
[   246.171] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - Calling pthread_mutex_lock ()
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[   246.406] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[   246.437] MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
[   246.468] XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel
[   246.796] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, removing from list!
[   246.796] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, removing from list!
[   246.796] [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[   248.843] winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 512 384
[   248.843] (--) 3 mouse buttons found
[   248.843] (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
[   248.843] (--) Windows keyboard layout: "00000409" (00000409) "US", type 4
[   248.843] (--) Found matching XKB configuration "English (USA)"
[   248.843] (--) Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options = "none"
[   248.843] Rules = "base" Model = "pc105" Layout = "us" Variant = "none" Options = "none"
[   248.843] winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock()
[   248.843] winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_lock () returned.
[   248.843] winInitMultiWindowWM - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned.
[   248.843] winInitMultiWindowWM - DISPLAY=:4.0
[   248.843] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_lock () returned.
[   248.843] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned.
[   248.859] winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.
[   248.859] winClipboardThreadProc - DISPLAY=:4.0
[   248.859] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - DISPLAY=:4.0
[   248.859] winInitMultiWindowWM - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
[   248.859] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
[   248.890] winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
[   252.375] OS has icon alpha channel support: yes
[   256.375] winMultiWindowXMsgProc - WM_CHANGE_STATE - IconicState

[-- Attachment #3: vm_cygcheck.out --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 25781 bytes --]


Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Thu Oct 03 16:26:43 2013

Windows 2003 Server Ver 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 2

Path:	C:\cygwin64\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin64\bin
	C:\WINDOWS\system32
	C:\WINDOWS
	C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem

Output from C:\cygwin64\bin\id.exe
UID: 500(Administrator) GID: 513(None)
513(None)               0(root)                 544(Administrators)
545(Users)

SysDir: C:\WINDOWS\system32
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

USER = 'Administrator'
PWD = '/home/Administrator'
HOME = '/home/Administrator'

HOMEPATH = '\Documents and Settings\Administrator'
MANPATH = '/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/man:'
APPDATA = 'C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data'
HOSTNAME = 'test-f9c3deaa35'
SHELL = '/bin/bash'
TERM = 'xterm'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'EM64T Family 6 Model 23 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel'
WINDIR = 'C:\WINDOWS'
OLDPWD = '/cygdrive/c/Documents and Settings/All Users/Start Menu/Programs/Cygwin'
USERDOMAIN = 'TEST-F9C3DEAA35'
CommonProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\Documents and Settings\All Users'
!:: = '::\'
temp = 'C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
TMP = '/tmp'
USERNAME = 'Administrator'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '6'
ProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)'
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK = 'NO'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
LANG = 'en_US.UTF-8'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator'
CLIENTNAME = 'Console'
TZ = 'America/New_York'
PS1 = '\[\e]0;\w\a\]\n\[\e[32m\]\u@\h \[\e[33m\]\w\[\e[0m\]\n\$ '
LOGONSERVER = '\\TEST-F9C3DEAA35'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'AMD64'
SHLVL = '1'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH'
HOMEDRIVE = 'C:'
COMSPEC = 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\WINDOWS'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '170a'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info:'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '1'
SESSIONNAME = 'Console'
COMPUTERNAME = 'TEST-F9C3DEAA35'
_ = '/usr/bin/cygcheck.exe'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\setup
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder\Start Menu2\Programs\Cygwin
  (default) = (unsupported type)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Program Options
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64'

obcaseinsensitive set to 1

Cygwin installations found in the registry:
  System: Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64

a:  fd             N/A    N/A                    
c:  hd  NTFS     40950Mb   8% CP CS UN PA FC     
d:  cd             N/A    N/A                    

C:\cygwin64      /          system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\bin  /usr/bin   system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\lib  /usr/lib   system  binary,auto
cygdrive prefix  /cygdrive  user    binary,posix=0,auto

Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\awk
 -> C:\cygwin64\bin\gawk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cp.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\crontab.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe hides C:\WINDOWS\system32\find.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\kill.exe
Not Found: ld
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\mv.exe
Not Found: patch
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ssh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vim.exe

 2568k 2013/06/23 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygasn1-8.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygasn1-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:23
   16k 2013/03/26 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygattr-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygattr-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-26 17:26
   64k 2013/03/07 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-07 02:54
   12k 2013/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcom_err-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcom_err-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-11 02:59
    9k 2013/03/07 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcrypt-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcrypt-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-07 09:29
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                  "cygcrypto-1.0.0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-07 12:01
  395k 2013/08/13 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcurl-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcurl-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-08-13 00:25
 1526k 2013/03/08 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-08 07:55
  111k 2013/03/08 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-08 07:56
  472k 2013/03/08 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygdb_sql-5.3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygdb_sql-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-08 07:58
  155k 2013/03/15 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygedit-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygedit-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-15 08:44
   70k 2013/10/02 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygEGL-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygEGL-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-02 17:37
  147k 2013/07/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygexpat-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygexpat-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-07-31 22:53
  210k 2013/08/05 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfontconfig-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfontconfig-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-08-05 07:59
   25k 2013/06/06 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfontenc-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfontenc-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-06 22:13
   53k 2013/05/06 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygformw-10.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygformw-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-05-06 08:10
  576k 2013/05/14 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfreetype-6.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfreetype-6.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-05-14 04:50
   67k 2013/07/27 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyggcc_s-seh-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyggcc_s-seh-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-07-27 11:45
   29k 2013/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyggdbm-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyggdbm-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-11 04:00
   12k 2013/03/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyggdbm_compat-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyggdbm_compat-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-11 04:01
  396k 2013/10/02 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygGL-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygGL-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-02 17:37
  213k 2013/10/02 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygglapi-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygglapi-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-02 17:26
  477k 2013/04/09 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygGLU-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygGLU-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-04-09 07:56
  220k 2013/04/09 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygglut-3.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygglut-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-04-09 08:57
  443k 2013/08/04 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyggmp-10.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyggmp-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-08-04 20:58
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                  "cyggs-9.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-04-30 12:31
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                  "cyggssapi-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:31
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                  "cygheimbase-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:20
  135k 2013/06/23 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygheimntlm-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygheimntlm-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:28
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                  "cyghistory7.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-14 10:14
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                  "cyghx509-5.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:24
   78k 2013/03/15 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygICE-6.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygICE-6.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-15 08:46
  998k 2013/03/07 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygiconv-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygiconv-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-07 03:03
  195k 2013/04/05 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygidn-11.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygidn-11.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-04-05 08:58
   38k 2013/06/24 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygintl-8.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygintl-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-24 04:36
  236k 2013/04/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygjpeg-8.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygjpeg-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-04-12 05:00
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                  "cygkrb5-26.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-23 06:27
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                  "cyglber-2-4-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-17 21:00
  283k 2013/09/03 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyglcms2-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyglcms2-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-09-03 13:56
  243k 2013/06/18 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygldap-2-4-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygldap-2-4-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-17 21:00
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                  "cygldap_r-2-4-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-06-17 21:01
    6k 2013/08/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyglsa64.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyglsa64.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-08-31 19:36
  129k 2013/03/07 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyglzma-5.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyglzma-5.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-07 10:20
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                  "cygmagic-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-03-19 13:27
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                  "cygmenuw-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-05-06 08:10
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                  "cygmetalink-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-08-13 00:02
  319k 2013/05/05 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygmpfr-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygmpfr-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-05-05 13:40
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                  "cygncurses++w-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-05-06 08:14
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                  "cygncursesw-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-05-06 08:08
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                  "cygOpenVG-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-02 17:37
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                  "cygOSMesa-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2013-10-02 17:37
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bzip2                   1.0.6-2         OK
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cron                    4.1-61          OK
csih                    0.9.7-1         OK
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cygutils                1.4.14-1        OK
cygwin                  1.7.25-1        OK
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diffutils               3.3-1           OK
dri-drivers             8.0.5-3         OK
editrights              1.02-1          OK
file                    5.13-1          OK
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gzip                    1.4-1           OK
hostname                3.13-1          OK
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less                    458-1           OK
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libedit0                20120311-1      OK
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libsqlite3_0            3.7.17-3        OK
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libXft2                 2.3.1-1         OK
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libxkbfile1             1.0.8-1         OK
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libXmuu1                1.1.1-1         OK
libXpm4                 3.5.10-1        OK
libXrandr2              1.4.1-1         OK
libXrender1             0.9.8-1         OK
libXt6                  1.1.4-1         OK
login                   1.10-10         OK
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man                     1.6g-2          OK
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mesa-demos              8.1.0-1         OK
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perl                    5.14.4-1        OK
rebase                  4.4.0.1-1       OK
rstart                  1.0.5-1         OK
rsync                   3.0.9-1         OK
run                     1.3.0-1         OK
sed                     4.2.2-3         OK
tar                     1.26-1          OK
terminfo                5.9-4           OK
texinfo                 4.13-1          OK
tzcode                  2013c-1         OK
unzip                   6.0-1           OK
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vim-common              7.3.1314-1      OK
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which                   2.20-2          OK
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xcursor-themes          1.0.4-1         OK
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xterm                   291-1           OK
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xxd                     7.3.1314-1      OK
xz                      5.0.4-1         OK
zip                     3.0-1           OK
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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 15:44       ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-03 16:21         ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 16:27         ` Ryan Johnson
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

<snip>
> Installed a fresh VM with a Windows XP 64 bit ISO, sp2 already
> applied.  VM has 512 MB ram, and the only package I installed after
> the OS was cygwin.
<snip>

Followup: I confirmed that my VM host's environment's memory setting
is set to lock all VM guest memory into physical ram, and doubled the
VM's ram.  No difference in results, issue still presents.

--- Erik

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 15:44       ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 16:21         ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-03 16:27         ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-03 16:41           ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-03 16:46           ` Erik Soderquist
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Johnson @ 2013-10-03 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 03/10/2013 11:44 AM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
> Installed a fresh VM with a Windows XP 64 bit ISO, sp2 already 
> applied. VM has 512 MB ram, and the only package I installed after the 
> OS was cygwin. Issue presents in this environment as soon as Firefox 
> connects/starts. Page Faults Delta over 5,000 minimum anytime I'm 
> doing anything in Firefox, including typing this message, usually over 
> 10,000.
I just fired up a 64-bit Ubuntu VM I had laying around, installed 
firefox, and tunneled it to cygwin64/X on my win7-64 machine. X isn't 
even visible in the task manager when I sort descending by PF delta, 
CPU, or memory. This in spite of having half a dozen tabs with content 
(including ads, an html5 game, and a youtube video playing).

Opening a couple dozen more empty tabs brought PFdelta up to the ~7k 
range, but the rate dropped back to ~0 as soon as the dust settled. 
Typing remains fully responsive, and I'm officially out of ideas.

Ryan


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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 16:27         ` Ryan Johnson
@ 2013-10-03 16:41           ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-03 16:49             ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 16:46           ` Erik Soderquist
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Johnson @ 2013-10-03 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 03/10/2013 12:27 PM, Ryan Johnson wrote:
> On 03/10/2013 11:44 AM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
>> Installed a fresh VM with a Windows XP 64 bit ISO, sp2 already 
>> applied. VM has 512 MB ram, and the only package I installed after 
>> the OS was cygwin. Issue presents in this environment as soon as 
>> Firefox connects/starts. Page Faults Delta over 5,000 minimum anytime 
>> I'm doing anything in Firefox, including typing this message, usually 
>> over 10,000.
> I just fired up a 64-bit Ubuntu VM I had laying around, installed 
> firefox, and tunneled it to cygwin64/X on my win7-64 machine. X isn't 
> even visible in the task manager when I sort descending by PF delta, 
> CPU, or memory. This in spite of having half a dozen tabs with content 
> (including ads, an html5 game, and a youtube video playing).
>
> Opening a couple dozen more empty tabs brought PFdelta up to the ~7k 
> range, but the rate dropped back to ~0 as soon as the dust settled. 
> Typing remains fully responsive, and I'm officially out of ideas.
Huh. I have 1.14.3, not 1.14.2... have you tried upgrading just in case 
that's the issue?

Ryan


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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 16:27         ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-03 16:41           ` Ryan Johnson
@ 2013-10-03 16:46           ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 17:04             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin-X)
  2013-10-03 18:29             ` Jack
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

<snip>
> I just fired up a 64-bit Ubuntu VM I had laying around, installed firefox,
> and tunneled it to cygwin64/X on my win7-64 machine. X isn't even visible in
> the task manager when I sort descending by PF delta, CPU, or memory. This in
> spite of having half a dozen tabs with content (including ads, an html5
> game, and a youtube video playing).
>
> Opening a couple dozen more empty tabs brought PFdelta up to the ~7k range,
> but the rate dropped back to ~0 as soon as the dust settled. Typing remains
> fully responsive, and I'm officially out of ideas.
>
>
> Ryan

That is the kind of responsiveness I expect, and what other people
I've discussed this with experience, which is why I think it is
something unusual in my setup or environment...  Unfortunately, I'm
currently unable to find it myself, and can reliably reproduce the
issue even in a virgin environment.

So far, the only common factors (that I see) across each of these has
been my Linux host, (CentOS 5.8 at present) and my various
tabs/accounts.  However, I am at a complete loss as to even guess at
how these could affect page faulting on the X server.

For reference: on the Linux host, when the Windows host is
experiencing these page faults, the Linux host is reporting 20-30% CPU
usage overall, no swap usage.

--- Erik

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 16:41           ` Ryan Johnson
@ 2013-10-03 16:49             ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

<snip>
> Huh. I have 1.14.3, not 1.14.2... have you tried upgrading just in case
> that's the issue?
>
>
> Ryan

The virgin XP-64 VM is using 1.14.3, issue still presents.

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 16:46           ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-03 17:04             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin-X)
  2013-10-03 19:22               ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 18:29             ` Jack
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Larry Hall (Cygwin-X) @ 2013-10-03 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 10/3/2013 12:46 PM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
> <snip>
>> I just fired up a 64-bit Ubuntu VM I had laying around, installed firefox,
>> and tunneled it to cygwin64/X on my win7-64 machine. X isn't even visible in
>> the task manager when I sort descending by PF delta, CPU, or memory. This in
>> spite of having half a dozen tabs with content (including ads, an html5
>> game, and a youtube video playing).
>>
>> Opening a couple dozen more empty tabs brought PFdelta up to the ~7k range,
>> but the rate dropped back to ~0 as soon as the dust settled. Typing remains
>> fully responsive, and I'm officially out of ideas.
>>
>>
>> Ryan
>
> That is the kind of responsiveness I expect, and what other people
> I've discussed this with experience, which is why I think it is
> something unusual in my setup or environment...  Unfortunately, I'm
> currently unable to find it myself, and can reliably reproduce the
> issue even in a virgin environment.
>
> So far, the only common factors (that I see) across each of these has
> been my Linux host, (CentOS 5.8 at present) and my various
> tabs/accounts.  However, I am at a complete loss as to even guess at
> how these could affect page faulting on the X server.
>
> For reference: on the Linux host, when the Windows host is
> experiencing these page faults, the Linux host is reporting 20-30% CPU
> usage overall, no swap usage.

Any chance of finding or setting up an alternate host to test against?


-- 
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_____________________________________________________________________

A: Yes.
 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 16:46           ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 17:04             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin-X)
@ 2013-10-03 18:29             ` Jack
  2013-10-03 19:27               ` Erik Soderquist
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Jack @ 2013-10-03 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 2013.10.03 12:46, Erik Soderquist wrote:
> <snip>
> > I just fired up a 64-bit Ubuntu VM I had laying around, installed  
> firefox,
> > and tunneled it to cygwin64/X on my win7-64 machine. X isn't even  
> visible in
> > the task manager when I sort descending by PF delta, CPU, or  
> memory. This in
> > spite of having half a dozen tabs with content (including ads, an  
> html5
> > game, and a youtube video playing).
> >
> > Opening a couple dozen more empty tabs brought PFdelta up to the  
> ~7k range,
> > but the rate dropped back to ~0 as soon as the dust settled. Typing  
> remains
> > fully responsive, and I'm officially out of ideas.
> >
> >
> > Ryan
> 
> That is the kind of responsiveness I expect, and what other people
> I've discussed this with experience, which is why I think it is
> something unusual in my setup or environment...  Unfortunately, I'm
> currently unable to find it myself, and can reliably reproduce the
> issue even in a virgin environment.
> 
> So far, the only common factors (that I see) across each of these has
> been my Linux host, (CentOS 5.8 at present) and my various
> tabs/accounts.  However, I am at a complete loss as to even guess at
> how these could affect page faulting on the X server.
> 
> For reference: on the Linux host, when the Windows host is
> experiencing these page faults, the Linux host is reporting 20-30% CPU
> usage overall, no swap usage.

Similar, to but different from Larry's suggestion, can you install  
Firefox on CentOS using the installer from Firefox itself, and not the  
distro version?  I can imagine it could be something about flags or  
settings they used when compiling it.

Jack
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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 17:04             ` Larry Hall (Cygwin-X)
@ 2013-10-03 19:22               ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

<snip>
>
> Any chance of finding or setting up an alternate host to test against?
>
>
> --
> Larry

Not currently, though the Linux host is slated for a wipe and reload
"when scheduling allows"...  As it is not considered a critical host,
it waits until everything that is critical is handled...

--- Erik

> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> A: Yes.
>> Q: Are you sure?
>>> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

ps: I love the example here :-)

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 18:29             ` Jack
@ 2013-10-03 19:27               ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-03 19:43                 ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

<snip>
> Similar, to but different from Larry's suggestion, can you install Firefox
> on CentOS using the installer from Firefox itself, and not the distro
> version?  I can imagine it could be something about flags or settings they
> used when compiling it.
>
> Jack

I tried a couple times, and am willing to try again; however, I have
not been able to resolve dependency conflicts to get a current version
of Firefox to successfully install, let alone run.  I fear this may
have to wait for the host to be wiped and reloaded.  Even then, I
don't know what level of success I'll have, as currently it looks like
it will be reloaded with CentOS 6.  RHEL/CentOS are known for keeping
solid and stable, not current...

--- Erik

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 19:27               ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-03 19:43                 ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-04 13:21                   ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-03 19:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Erik Soderquist
<erik.soderquist@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>> Similar, to but different from Larry's suggestion, can you install Firefox
>> on CentOS using the installer from Firefox itself, and not the distro
>> version?  I can imagine it could be something about flags or settings they
>> used when compiling it.
>>
>> Jack
>
> I tried a couple times, and am willing to try again; however, I have
> not been able to resolve dependency conflicts to get a current version
> of Firefox to successfully install, let alone run.  I fear this may
> have to wait for the host to be wiped and reloaded.  Even then, I
> don't know what level of success I'll have, as currently it looks like
> it will be reloaded with CentOS 6.  RHEL/CentOS are known for keeping
> solid and stable, not current...
>
> --- Erik

Trying again; last time i tried it was looking like CentOS was going
to skip the 5.9 release entirely... It seems it is there now and (so
far) has two of the previously missing dependencies... we will see how
far i get...

--- Erik



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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-03 19:43                 ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-04 13:21                   ` Erik Soderquist
  2013-10-04 14:03                     ` Ryan Johnson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-04 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

<snip>
> Trying again; last time i tried it was looking like CentOS was going
> to skip the 5.9 release entirely... It seems it is there now and (so
> far) has two of the previously missing dependencies... we will see how
> far i get...
>
> --- Erik

.... And that idea crashed and burned badly...  After much googling
and trying to force-fit the pieces anyway, it quickly became apparent
that if I succeeded I would by then be running a Fedora system rather
than CentOS; IS team here would have had my hide for breakfast...

Next attempt: trying to get a test VM for Ubuntu or Mint; IS team may
have my hide just for asking that one...

---- Erik

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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-04 13:21                   ` Erik Soderquist
@ 2013-10-04 14:03                     ` Ryan Johnson
  2013-10-04 14:31                       ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Johnson @ 2013-10-04 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On 04/10/2013 9:21 AM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
> if I succeeded I would by then be running a Fedora system rather
> than CentOS; IS team here would have had my hide for breakfast...
>
> Next attempt: trying to get a test VM for Ubuntu or Mint; IS team may
> have my hide just for asking that one...
I suppose all of this comes in the name of "security" ? Sounds like you 
guys have the IT equivalent of the TSA...

(my condolences to you and your colleagues)

Ryan


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* Re: Xwin 1.14.2 (64 bit) extreme memory page faulting
  2013-10-04 14:03                     ` Ryan Johnson
@ 2013-10-04 14:31                       ` Erik Soderquist
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Soderquist @ 2013-10-04 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin-xfree

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Ryan Johnson
<ryan.johnson@cs.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> On 04/10/2013 9:21 AM, Erik Soderquist wrote:
>>
>> if I succeeded I would by then be running a Fedora system rather
>> than CentOS; IS team here would have had my hide for breakfast...
>>
>> Next attempt: trying to get a test VM for Ubuntu or Mint; IS team may
>> have my hide just for asking that one...
>
> I suppose all of this comes in the name of "security" ? Sounds like you guys
> have the IT equivalent of the TSA...
>
> (my condolences to you and your colleagues)
>
> Ryan


Actually they are quite honest about it being purely policy
enforcement and software auditing.  We're all network techs here, and
are responsible for securing our own systems.

--- Erik


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