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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: cygwin started speaking German today
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 12:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111004122837.GA27229@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E6F7AA1.4090808@redhat.com>

On Sep 13 09:45, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 09/09/2011 08:59 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >On Sep  9 13:33, Andy Koppe wrote:
> >>The 'C.UTF-8' default locale is not a bug, it was a deliberate design decision.
> >
> >Exactly.  And it has been discussed a lot on the cygwin-apps mailing
> >list.
> >
> >And above all, there *is* an official way for the user to align the
> >Cygwin locale with the Windows locale, see the -s and -u options
> >of the locale(1) command:
> >
> >   http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#locale
> 
> On 09/09/2011 09:09 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> >> OK, then the following four facilities are needed in Cygwin.
> >>
> >> 1) We need the name of the locale which is in effect when the user has
> >>     not specified environment variables.
> >
> > In Fedora, for instance, the fallback is what is set as system default
> > in /etc/sysconfig/i18n.
> >
> > In Cygwin the fallback is the system default set in
> /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
> > or /etc/profile.d/lang.csh.
> >
> > Why should libintl use anything else on Cygwin, but not on Linux?
> >
> 
> Given this, I think the bug is in cygwin for having base files
> /etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} which hardcode LANG to C.UTF-8 instead
> of using locale -s -u to default LANG to the preferred Windows
> settings.

Bug?  Didn't we choose C.UTF-8 after a long discussion?  Are the points
raised in this discussion invalid or outdated now?  Why?  I don't object
against using `locale -sU' in lang.sh/lang.csh, but we should not do
this without a discussion of the pros and cons.

> Libintl should NOT be second-guessing an explicit setting
> of LANG,

ACK.


Corinna

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-04 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-30 10:18 Voelker, Bernhard
2011-08-30 11:28 ` Charles Wilson
2011-09-08  2:31 ` Charles Wilson
2011-09-08 10:46   ` Bruno Haible
2011-09-08 10:55     ` Voelker, Bernhard
2011-09-08 11:06     ` Eric Blake
2011-09-08 12:05     ` Charles Wilson
2011-09-08 12:48       ` Andy Koppe
2011-09-08 13:13         ` Eric Blake
2011-09-08 12:51       ` Andy Koppe
2011-09-08 21:58         ` Bruno Haible
     [not found]       ` <201109082344.55506.bruno@clisp.org>
2011-09-09  9:18         ` Charles Wilson
2011-09-09 12:33           ` Andy Koppe
2011-09-09 15:00             ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-09-10 11:36               ` Thorsten Kampe
2011-09-13 18:39               ` Eric Blake
2011-09-17 21:50                 ` David Sastre
2011-09-17 22:50                   ` Ken Brown
2011-09-18  3:19                     ` David Sastre
2011-10-04 12:29                 ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2011-10-04 12:46                   ` Charles Wilson
2011-10-04 14:30                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-04 18:04                       ` Erwin Waterlander
2011-10-04 18:21                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-05 16:04                           ` Erwin Waterlander
2011-10-05 16:28                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-05 16:52                               ` Erwin Waterlander
2011-10-05 17:32                               ` Charles Wilson
2011-10-05 18:24                                 ` Ken Brown
2011-10-05 18:29                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-05 18:44                                   ` Erwin Waterlander
2011-10-05 18:50                                   ` Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
2011-10-05 18:58                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2011-10-10 17:24                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-11 15:41                                     ` Erwin Waterlander
2011-10-11 16:54                                     ` Charles Wilson
2011-10-11 17:29                                       ` Christopher Faylor
2011-10-16 18:42                                       ` Charles Wilson
2011-10-17  6:59                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-17 13:17                                           ` Charles Wilson
2011-10-17 13:52                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-17 13:58                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-05 18:29                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-10-06  1:35                       ` [OT] " Andrey Repin
2011-10-05 12:08                     ` Ken Brown
2011-09-09 15:13             ` Charles Wilson
2011-09-09 20:08               ` Andy Koppe
2011-09-08 13:45     ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-09-08 13:51     ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-09-08 20:57       ` Bruno Haible
2011-09-09 15:09         ` Corinna Vinschen
2011-09-09 15:58           ` Andy Koppe
2011-09-10 11:45           ` Thorsten Kampe
2011-09-10 13:50             ` Christopher Faylor
2011-09-10 16:10               ` Thorsten Kampe
2011-09-10 17:11                 ` Christopher Faylor
2011-08-31  8:39 Voelker, Bernhard
2011-08-31 14:01 ` Charles Wilson
2011-08-31 15:19   ` Charles Wilson
2011-09-01  5:30 Voelker, Bernhard

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