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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: dash-0.5.8-3
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170131100402.GB29504@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81b5af354b7a3925ff0a68dcc063265f@smtp-cloud6.xs4all.net>

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On Jan 28 14:44, Houder wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:14:00, Steven Penny wrote:
> > Obviously Bash is not the problem, nor readline as Dash doesnt use readline. So
> > it appears the issue this time is again with cygwin1.dll, or perhaps the Dash
> > package.
> 
> .. uhm, it appears to me that Windows is the issue here.
> 
> As those in the know do not feel inclined to respond, I will provide some
> guesses that are my own:
> 
>  - in terms of input buffer management, utf-8 encoded characters will not
>    be recognized in case of bash and dash ... (they are under Fedora)
>     - see the output of stty -a: iutf8 is not present (it is under Fedora)
>  - readline provides bash with input buffer management for utf-8 encoded
>    characters on Windows (that is why it 'works' in case of bash)
>  - bash has support for utf-8 encoded characters ...
>    (e.g. ls -l ? will include one-character filenames in case the name is
>     made up of only one multi-byte character)
>  - dash has no such support ... [1][2]
> 
> Consequently, dash is only partly useful, even more so on Windows (as it
> would require an additional "helper" on Windows in order to obtain proper
> line-editing). Helper? readline, libedit ...
> 
> However, I am only guessing ... (only Erik and Corinna can provide expert
> details here).

I'm not quite sure yet but apparently the problem is in the handling of
VERASE in the termios implementation.  In cooked mode it fills a char
buffer with what has been typed.  The code doesn't know if the bytes in
the buffer are UTF-8 chars or just random bytes.  So VERASE erases
exactly one byte, which means, in case of UTF-8 chars it only erases the
last byte of of a mulitbyte character.

It seems the Linux termios implementation is different in that it
still knows which bytes constitute a single keypress and thus knows
how much byte it has to erase.


Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Maintainer                 cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-31 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-27 23:40 Eric Blake (cygwin)
2017-01-24 15:58 ` Houder
2017-01-25  1:28   ` Steven Penny
2017-01-25 13:37     ` Houder
2017-01-25 20:31       ` cyg Simple
2017-01-28 14:36         ` Houder
2017-01-26  0:14       ` Steven Penny
2017-01-28 13:44         ` Houder
2017-01-31 10:04           ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2017-01-31 13:16             ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-01-31 15:02               ` Houder
2017-01-31 15:33                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-01-31 15:42                   ` Eric Blake
2017-02-01  8:46                     ` Houder
2017-01-31 17:54                   ` Houder
2017-02-01  9:17                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-13 22:03                   ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-14  8:45                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-14 19:40                       ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-14 19:56                         ` Eric Blake
2017-02-14 20:29                           ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-14 20:35                             ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-15 22:19                               ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-16 12:49                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-16 20:32                                   ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-17  7:36                                     ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-17  9:43                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-17 22:30                                         ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-18 22:46                                           ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-20  9:11                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-20 21:08                                               ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-20  9:07                                           ` Corinna Vinschen

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