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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: dash-0.5.8-3
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170216124949.GF3889@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59ecea04-2e3c-41af-9f4a-93a9b772a9e4@towo.net>

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On Feb 15 23:19, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> Am 14.02.2017 um 21:35 schrieb Thomas Wolff:
> > Am 14.02.2017 um 21:29 schrieb Thomas Wolff:
> > > Am 14.02.2017 um 20:56 schrieb Eric Blake:
> > > > On 02/14/2017 01:40 PM, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> > > > > > No.  We're talking about a function in the master side
> > > > > > of the tty, while
> > > > > > the applications started in the terminal are on the slave side.
> > > > > I am not familiar with the concept of setting termios properties on
> > > > > either the master or slave side of a pty. I've only ever set
> > > > > them in the
> > > > > client application, including my tests about IUTF8 which worked. Would
> > > > > setting on the master side imply it's set for the clients implicitly,
> > > > > and can it be changed later, e.g. when mintty character encoding is
> > > > > being changed from the Options dialog?
> > > > > And you say the function of erasing characters on BS is in the master
> > > > > side? To be honest, this confuses me. I thought it's a
> > > > > client function,
> > > > > like readline() would perform if used (apparently not by
> > > > > dash), which is
> > > > > kind of an enhanced version of the tty cooked mode and used
> > > > > to work even
> > > > > without the new flag, right?
> > > > The readline source code does not mention IUTF8; and neither bash nor
> > > > dash need to reference it, because if the tty handling code sets it
> > > > correctly for what the terminal is going to display, then the clients
> > > > that are read()ing from the tty never even see BS in cooked mode (the
> > > > master side of the terminal handles BS before the read() completes in
> > > > the slave, if I'm understanding it correctly).
> > > This does not comply with my (limited) understanding of pty stuff.
> > > In mintty, forkpty will create a master/slave pty; mintty feeds it
> > > on the master side, while the client program (usually a shell) reads
> > > from the slave side. Mintty never handles BS for input, it simply
> > > feeds it into the pty. "Line disciplines" like cooked mode must be
> > > handled on the slave side.
> > Also, I've tried both options in mintty. Setting the flag on the master
> > side has weird effects, initially blocking the terminal process.
> > Setting it on the slave side works fine.
> That was a mistake (got something wrong when testing). It works from either
> side alike.
> I've now patched mintty to keep the flag in sync with the character
> encoding, including on later changes (from Options menu or by escape
> sequence).

There's an ESC sequence to change the codeset?  Do you mean the
alternate codeset sequence \e[10m / \e[11m or is there something
more sophisticated?

Thanks,
Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Maintainer                 cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Red Hat

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-16 12:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-27 23:40 Eric Blake (cygwin)
2017-01-24 15:58 ` Houder
2017-01-25  1:28   ` Steven Penny
2017-01-25 13:37     ` Houder
2017-01-25 20:31       ` cyg Simple
2017-01-28 14:36         ` Houder
2017-01-26  0:14       ` Steven Penny
2017-01-28 13:44         ` Houder
2017-01-31 10:04           ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-01-31 13:16             ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-01-31 15:02               ` Houder
2017-01-31 15:33                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-01-31 15:42                   ` Eric Blake
2017-02-01  8:46                     ` Houder
2017-01-31 17:54                   ` Houder
2017-02-01  9:17                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-13 22:03                   ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-14  8:45                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-14 19:40                       ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-14 19:56                         ` Eric Blake
2017-02-14 20:29                           ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-14 20:35                             ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-15 22:19                               ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-16 12:49                                 ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2017-02-16 20:32                                   ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-17  7:36                                     ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-17  9:43                                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-17 22:30                                         ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-18 22:46                                           ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-20  9:11                                             ` Corinna Vinschen
2017-02-20 21:08                                               ` Thomas Wolff
2017-02-20  9:07                                           ` Corinna Vinschen

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