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From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin fails to utilize Unicode replacement character
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2018 08:32:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180905083009.GJ6350@calimero.vinschen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79ed1db7-47cc-e2fd-7178-0a6b81ab94e7@SystematicSw.ab.ca>

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On Sep  4 14:40, Brian Inglis wrote:
> On 2018-09-04 12:20, Steven Penny wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 16:18:21, Thomas Wolff wrote:
> >> My vote is against the patch because the nodef glyph will often be just blank
> >> space which is certainly worse than ▒.
> 
> Not according to the sample below: you would have to know that medium shade
> means unavailable.
> 
> >> If conhost does not provide a reasonable way to enquire 0xFFFD availability
> >> it's conhost's fault, not cygwin's so why should cygwin implement a bad
> >> compromise. If conhost ever improves, cygwin can adapt.
> > This is some dangerous commentary. I would like to counter it now with some
> > actual research. Using BabelMap:
> > http://babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html
> > You can do "Fonts", "Font Coverage" and you will get this result with code point
> > FFFD:
> >    yes: DejaVu Sans Mono
> >    no:
> >    - Consolas
> >    - Courier New
> >    - Lucida Console
> >    - MS Gothic
> >    - NSimSun
> >    - SimSun-ExtB
> > This is concerning true, but we can then review the ".notdef glyph" for the
> > problem fonts. As this glyph is not an actual character, i cant paste it here,
> > but i will describe them below:
> >    empty rectangle:
> >    - Courier New
> >    - Lucida Console
> >    - MS Gothic
> >    - SimSun-ExtB
> >    rectangle with a question mark inside: Consolas
> 
> These are both recommended .notdef glyphs.
> 
> >    none: NSimSun
> 
> Valid OTF and TTF fonts must have a glyph with index entry 0 used for .notdef.

Discussion closed for 2.11.1.  I'm going to release it as is, with
0xfffd as replacement char.

A better/more complex solution will have to go into the next release.


Thanks,
Corinna

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Corinna Vinschen                  Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to
Cygwin Maintainer                 cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-05  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-01 16:13 Steven Penny
2018-09-01 18:11 ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-01 18:46   ` Steven Penny
2018-09-01 21:07     ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-01 19:40 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-01 21:50 ` Doug Henderson
2018-09-01 22:49   ` Steven Penny
2018-09-02  8:07     ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-02 12:51       ` Steven Penny
2018-09-03 12:46         ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 14:59           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 16:34             ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 17:17               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 17:56                 ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 18:20                   ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 19:14                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 20:27                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 20:42                         ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 21:03                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 22:15                             ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04  6:06                               ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-04  9:00                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-04 11:40                                 ` Steven Penny
2018-09-05  7:55                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-05  9:22                                     ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-05 11:58                                     ` Steven Penny
2018-09-05 13:18                                       ` Marco Atzeri
2018-09-05 15:20                                         ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-05 15:58                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-05 20:15                                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-06  1:35                                             ` Steven Penny
2018-09-06  7:01                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07  8:20                                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 10:34                                                   ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-07 11:29                                                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 11:42                                                       ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-07 11:51                                                         ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-07 11:54                                                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 16:22                                                             ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-07 16:48                                                             ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-07 17:01                                                               ` Marco Atzeri
2018-09-07 18:21                                                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 18:20                                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-05 13:35                                       ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-05 14:04                                         ` Houder
2018-09-05 15:05                                           ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-04 12:50                                 ` David Macek
2018-09-04 14:18                                   ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-04 14:46                                     ` David Macek
2018-09-04 18:20                                     ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04 18:41                                       ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-04 19:50                                         ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-04 19:53                                         ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04 21:43                                           ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-04 23:29                                             ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04 20:40                                       ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-05  8:32                                         ` Corinna Vinschen [this message]
2018-09-04 13:05                                 ` Andrey Repin
2018-10-04  0:25                               ` Steven Penny
2018-09-03 16:05         ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-04 19:59 ` Doug Henderson
2018-09-04 21:05   ` Steven Penny

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