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From: Steven Penny <svnpenn@gmail.com>
To: cygwin@cygwin.com
Subject: Re: Cygwin fails to utilize Unicode replacement character
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2018 22:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b8b1771.1c69fb81.e5a2.88e9@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1FpuM8APwVkUkCEqSQYyb36bRMOOWOpKk0NOqoZTEysbqEig@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 1 Sep 2018 15:50:04, Doug Henderson wrote:
> This is an issue with rendering the character in the terminal window.
> In both the CMD/Conhost/bash and Mintty/bash terminals, I have
> configure the font to be Lucinda Console. This font does not have a
> glyph for U+FFFD: Replacement Character. (To check your character set,
> open Charmap, and check Advanced View. Type "Replacement Character" on
> the Search field, and search.) In the absence of that glyph, the
> terminal program must choose a glyph to display. In a later reply,
> Thomas Wolff, the maintainer of Mintty, indicates that Mintty displays
> the glyph for U+2592: Medium Shade (or a similar one). Without
> reference to the source, it is difficult to be certain, but Conhost
> appears to use a similar glyph.
>
> In Mintty, if you choose a font, such as DejaVu Sans Mono, which
> contains a glyph for U+FFFD: Replacement Character, you could expect
> to see that glyph, however that is determined by the terminal. As I
> write this, both Mintty (2.9.0) and Conhost (Windows 10 Home,
> 10.0.17134 Build 17134, fully patched) display a glyph with the
> appearance of U+2592 Medium Shade.

Hm, this is a tough call. These fonts come with Windows:

- Consolas
- Lucida Console

Neither of them provide U+FFFD, so that means it will fall back to the
".notdef glyph":

http://docs.microsoft.com/typography/opentype/spec/recom

That presents 2 options:

U+FFFD:
  unicode conformant:
    yes
  consolas or lucida console:
    invalid byte or missing char: same glyph

U+2592:
  unicode conformant:
    no
  consolas or lucida console:
    invalid byte or missing char: different glyph
    
I would prefer the first option - as other fonts do define U+FFFD, including
"DejaVu Sans Mono" which Cygwin provides via the "dejavu-fonts" package. However
I can understand if we wanted to side with people using one of the default
fonts.


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-01 22:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-01 16:13 Steven Penny
2018-09-01 18:11 ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-01 18:46   ` Steven Penny
2018-09-01 21:07     ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-01 19:40 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-01 21:50 ` Doug Henderson
2018-09-01 22:49   ` Steven Penny [this message]
2018-09-02  8:07     ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-02 12:51       ` Steven Penny
2018-09-03 12:46         ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 14:59           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 16:34             ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 17:17               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 17:56                 ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 18:20                   ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 19:14                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 20:27                       ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 20:42                         ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-03 21:03                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-03 22:15                             ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04  6:06                               ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-04  9:00                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-04 11:40                                 ` Steven Penny
2018-09-05  7:55                                   ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-05  9:22                                     ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-05 11:58                                     ` Steven Penny
2018-09-05 13:18                                       ` Marco Atzeri
2018-09-05 15:20                                         ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-05 15:58                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-05 20:15                                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-06  1:35                                             ` Steven Penny
2018-09-06  7:01                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07  8:20                                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 10:34                                                   ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-07 11:29                                                     ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 11:42                                                       ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-07 11:51                                                         ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-07 11:54                                                           ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 16:22                                                             ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-07 16:48                                                             ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-07 17:01                                                               ` Marco Atzeri
2018-09-07 18:21                                                                 ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-07 18:20                                                               ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-05 13:35                                       ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-05 14:04                                         ` Houder
2018-09-05 15:05                                           ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-04 12:50                                 ` David Macek
2018-09-04 14:18                                   ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-04 14:46                                     ` David Macek
2018-09-04 18:20                                     ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04 18:41                                       ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-04 19:50                                         ` Andrey Repin
2018-09-04 19:53                                         ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04 21:43                                           ` Thomas Wolff
2018-09-04 23:29                                             ` Steven Penny
2018-09-04 20:40                                       ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-05  8:32                                         ` Corinna Vinschen
2018-09-04 13:05                                 ` Andrey Repin
2018-10-04  0:25                               ` Steven Penny
2018-09-03 16:05         ` Brian Inglis
2018-09-04 19:59 ` Doug Henderson
2018-09-04 21:05   ` Steven Penny

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