* Package Requests: Update:bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
@ 2021-08-13 4:20 Richard Beels
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From: Richard Beels @ 2021-08-13 4:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Findutils _was_ on this list but then I saw it come over the transom
(yeay Brian! :-), which reminded me I never actually wrote about
it. Procrastination eekes a minor victory... :)
bash-completion and coreutils are both currently several releases/years behind.
Also, I'll throw in an oddball request to save a bucket of headers -
linux manpages. I see the posix ones are packaged for the cyg, it
would be nice to also get the linux manpages packaged in similar fashion.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
[not found] ` <20210813204955.88404386184A@sourceware.org>
@ 2021-08-14 3:19 ` Brian Inglis
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From: Brian Inglis @ 2021-08-14 3:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 2021-08-13 14:48, Richard Beels via Cygwin wrote:
> At 8/13/2021 at 01:11, Shakespearean monkeys danced on Brian Inglis's
> keyboard and said:
>> I suggested linux-manpages a while back, as it comes from the same
>> source as posix-manpages, and I install it myself, but did not get
>> voted to package, due to duplication with conflicting priorities and
>> no easy way to resolve under existing paths.
> Huh... they go to /usr/local by default (easily changeable with `make
> prefix=...`), which is pretty bare to begin with and with the fact that
> they don't package hardly anything in man1, the conflict potential goes
> down even further. Ah well, I guess I just keep making it manually from
> a cloned repo.
That's the issue - Cygwin supports project man pages installed under FHS
locations like /usr/share/man/ where there would be "duplication", not
installing in non-standard locations under /usr/local/{share/,}man/ nor
under /usr/share/man/linux/ (man -m linux)!
>> I could probably look at bash-completion if I can get around to bash,
>> as I would worry about dependencies, fixes, and tweaks. There are big
>> challenges in bash and coreutils being years out of date as parts of
>> those need customized for Cygwin, and the customization patches are
>> likely to have issues, or even need redesign, if there have been major
>> changes.
> bash-completion is a separate/disconnected project (now located at
> https://github.com/scop/bash-completion), it doesn't align its releases
> with bash itself. bash-completion 2.7-2.10 require bash 4.1+, 2.11
> bumped that to 4.2. Since we're at 4.4, I don't think that's a
> showstopper (BICBW).
BYCBC|BYCBR
> And thanks again for the findutils update. 4.7 gave us comma-delimited
> -type/-xtype specs, so a "( -type p -o -type s )" (shown non-quoted for
> sanity's sake) becomes "-type p,s". :thumbsup:
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
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* Re: Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
2021-08-13 5:11 ` Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, " Brian Inglis
2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
@ 2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
[not found] ` <20210813204955.88404386184A@sourceware.org>
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From: Richard Beels @ 2021-08-13 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
At 8/13/2021 at 01:11, Shakespearean monkeys danced on Brian Inglis's
keyboard and said:
> I suggested linux-manpages a while back, as it comes from the same
> source as posix-manpages, and I install it myself, but did not get
> voted to package, due to duplication with conflicting priorities
> and no easy way to resolve under existing paths.
Huh... they go to /usr/local by default (easily changeable with
`make prefix=...`), which is pretty bare to begin with and with the
fact that they don't package hardly anything in man1, the conflict
potential goes down even further. Ah well, I guess I just keep
making it manually from a cloned repo.
> I could probably look at bash-completion if I can get around to
> bash, as I would worry about dependencies, fixes, and tweaks. There
> are big challenges in bash and coreutils being years out of date as
> parts of those need customized for Cygwin, and the customization
> patches are likely to have issues, or even need redesign, if there
> have been major changes.
bash-completion is a separate/disconnected project (now located at
https://github.com/scop/bash-completion), it doesn't align its
releases with bash itself. bash-completion 2.7-2.10 require bash
4.1+, 2.11 bumped that to 4.2. Since we're at 4.4, I don't think
that's a showstopper (BICBW).
And thanks again for the findutils update. 4.7 gave us
comma-delimited -type/-xtype specs, so a "( -type p -o -type s )"
(shown non-quoted for sanity's sake) becomes "-type p,s". :thumbsup:
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
2021-08-13 5:11 ` Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, " Brian Inglis
@ 2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Richard Beels @ 2021-08-13 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
At 8/13/2021 at 01:11, Shakespearean monkeys danced on Brian Inglis's
keyboard and said:
> I suggested linux-manpages a while back, as it comes from the same
> source as posix-manpages, and I install it myself, but did not get
> voted to package, due to duplication with conflicting priorities
> and no easy way to resolve under existing paths.
Huh... they go to /usr/local by default (easily changeable with
`make prefix=...`), which is pretty bare to begin with and with the
fact that they don't package hardly anything in man1, the conflict
potential goes down even further. Ah well, I guess I just keep
making it manually from a cloned repo.
> I could probably look at bash-completion if I can get around to
> bash, as I would worry about dependencies, fixes, and tweaks. There
> are big challenges in bash and coreutils being years out of date as
> parts of those need customized for Cygwin, and the customization
> patches are likely to have issues, or even need redesign, if there
> have been major changes.
bash-completion is a separate/disconnected project (now located at
https://github.com/scop/bash-completion), it doesn't align its
releases with bash itself. bash-completion 2.7-2.10 require bash
4.1+, 2.11 bumped that to 4.2. Since we're at 4.4, I don't think
that's a showstopper (BICBW).
And thanks again for the findutils update. 4.7 gave us
comma-delimited -type/-xtype specs, so a "( -type p -o -type s )"
(shown non-quoted for sanity's sake) becomes "-type p,s". :thumbsup:
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
2021-08-13 5:11 ` Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, " Brian Inglis
2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
@ 2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
[not found] ` <20210813204955.88404386184A@sourceware.org>
3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Richard Beels @ 2021-08-13 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
At 8/13/2021 at 01:11, Shakespearean monkeys danced on Brian Inglis's
keyboard and said:
> I suggested linux-manpages a while back, as it comes from the same
> source as posix-manpages, and I install it myself, but did not get
> voted to package, due to duplication with conflicting priorities
> and no easy way to resolve under existing paths.
Huh... they go to /usr/local by default (easily changeable with
`make prefix=...`), which is pretty bare to begin with and with the
fact that they don't package hardly anything in man1, the conflict
potential goes down even further. Ah well, I guess I just keep
making it manually from a cloned repo.
> I could probably look at bash-completion if I can get around to
> bash, as I would worry about dependencies, fixes, and tweaks. There
> are big challenges in bash and coreutils being years out of date as
> parts of those need customized for Cygwin, and the customization
> patches are likely to have issues, or even need redesign, if there
> have been major changes.
bash-completion is a separate/disconnected project (now located at
https://github.com/scop/bash-completion), it doesn't align its
releases with bash itself. bash-completion 2.7-2.10 require bash
4.1+, 2.11 bumped that to 4.2. Since we're at 4.4, I don't think
that's a showstopper (BICBW).
And thanks again for the findutils update. 4.7 gave us
comma-delimited -type/-xtype specs, so a "( -type p -o -type s )"
(shown non-quoted for sanity's sake) becomes "-type p,s". :thumbsup:
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Package Requests: Update: bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
[not found] <20210813042232.5DB54397102F@sourceware.org>
@ 2021-08-13 5:11 ` Brian Inglis
2021-08-13 20:48 ` Richard Beels
` (3 more replies)
0 siblings, 4 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Brian Inglis @ 2021-08-13 5:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
On 2021-08-12 22:20, Richard Beels via Cygwin wrote:
> Findutils _was_ on this list but then I saw it come over the transom
> (yeay Brian! :-), which reminded me I never actually wrote about it.
> Procrastination ekes a minor victory... :)
>
> bash-completion and coreutils are both currently several releases/years
> behind.
>
> Also, I'll throw in an oddball request to save a bucket of headers -
> linux manpages. I see the posix ones are packaged for the cyg, it would
> be nice to also get the linux manpages packaged in similar fashion.
Cheers - glad those are helping some - looking at a few others right now
for this weekend:
- bison m4 sed - as current - and they are more developer oriented;
- dash grep gzip readline - as test - they are more pervasive and issues
would be high impact.
I suggested linux-manpages a while back, as it comes from the same
source as posix-manpages, and I install it myself, but did not get voted
to package, due to duplication with conflicting priorities and no easy
way to resolve under existing paths.
I could probably look at bash-completion if I can get around to bash, as
I would worry about dependencies, fixes, and tweaks.
There are big challenges in bash and coreutils being years out of date
as parts of those need customized for Cygwin, and the customization
patches are likely to have issues, or even need redesign, if there have
been major changes.
--
Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada
This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains
too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.
[Data in binary units and prefixes, physical quantities in SI.]
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Package Requests: Update:bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
@ 2021-08-13 4:20 Richard Beels
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Richard Beels @ 2021-08-13 4:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Findutils _was_ on this list but then I saw it come over the transom
(yeay Brian! :-), which reminded me I never actually wrote about
it. Procrastination eekes a minor victory... :)
bash-completion and coreutils are both currently several releases/years behind.
Also, I'll throw in an oddball request to save a bucket of headers -
linux manpages. I see the posix ones are packaged for the cyg, it
would be nice to also get the linux manpages packaged in similar fashion.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Package Requests: Update:bash-completion, coreutils - New: linux-manpages
@ 2021-08-13 4:20 Richard Beels
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Richard Beels @ 2021-08-13 4:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cygwin
Findutils _was_ on this list but then I saw it come over the transom
(yeay Brian! :-), which reminded me I never actually wrote about
it. Procrastination eekes a minor victory... :)
bash-completion and coreutils are both currently several releases/years behind.
Also, I'll throw in an oddball request to save a bucket of headers -
linux manpages. I see the posix ones are packaged for the cyg, it
would be nice to also get the linux manpages packaged in similar fashion.
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