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[chrstfer]

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Hi all,

First mail, so while I'm fairly sure it's on topic please forgive me if it isn't.

Has anyone tried to get a docker container with an X app in it to connect to the cygwin x server?

When I run startxwin after starting the wslg container the cygwin Xserver comes in at address (word?) :1 rather than :0, so the two servers can recognize each other (at least to some degree). I can run a cygwin X app in a cygwin console and get an X window, and I can run a wslg app in a wsl bash instance and get an X window, each on their respective servers. But when I set the env DISPLAY in one to the X of the other, it breaks.

This isn't just a stupid ask for a redundant use-case, either. The cygwin X server is vastly superior to the wslg one, at least insofar as integration with the windows 10 chrome; cygwin X windows no matter the library will snap like a regular windows window will. Anything coming out of wslg, at least when it comes to gtk3 (emacs-git) and QT4 (qutebrowser), have no native window decorations and don't snap. I've also been unable to find a way to run a docker container as a single X root window (ie to run a DE inside of a container) but I bet if I could connect to the cygwin X server that'd be fairly straightforward.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know too much about X so is what I'm asking even possible? (I do mainly use linux, but normally X is one of those things that i dont fiddle with much)

UItimately/mostly I'm just fed up of being stuck in Windows windowland at work and not having emacs-git*. At least thats how i landed on this topic, but it seems to me being able to run a docker container and have it hook into a cygwin X server that's already running would be a good feature generally. Especially if it would enable me to disable WSL again.

(*As an aside: while I have gotten it to compile, and it runs in the console, so many tests break that I'm afraid to even try compiling it for gtk3; so a docker container of debian stable seemed a logical next step and i half-expected it to just work, to be honest, given how seamless the rest of my cygwin experience has been recently, and I would put money on these two issues being on docker/docker-desktop/wsl, given how poor wslg's integration is despite being a microsoft project)

Chris B

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[Eliot Moss]

On 2/24/2023 1:51 PM, chrstfer via Cygwin wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> First mail, so while I'm fairly sure it's on topic please forgive me if it isn't.
> 
> Has anyone tried to get a docker container with an X app in it to connect to the cygwin x server?
> 
> When I run startxwin after starting the wslg container the cygwin Xserver comes in at address (word?) :1 rather than :0, so the two servers can recognize each other (at least to some degree). I can run a cygwin X app in a cygwin console and get an X window, and I can run a wslg app in a wsl bash instance and get an X window, each on their respective servers. But when I set the env DISPLAY in one to the X of the other, it breaks.
> 
> This isn't just a stupid ask for a redundant use-case, either. The cygwin X server is vastly superior to the wslg one, at least insofar as integration with the windows 10 chrome; cygwin X windows no matter the library will snap like a regular windows window will. Anything coming out of wslg, at least when it comes to gtk3 (emacs-git) and QT4 (qutebrowser), have no native window decorations and don't snap. I've also been unable to find a way to run a docker container as a single X root window (ie to run a DE inside of a container) but I bet if I could connect to the cygwin X server that'd be fairly straightforward.
> 
> I'll be the first to admit I don't know too much about X so is what I'm asking even possible? (I do mainly use linux, but normally X is one of those things that i dont fiddle with much)
> 
> UItimately/mostly I'm just fed up of being stuck in Windows windowland at work and not having emacs-git*. At least thats how i landed on this topic, but it seems to me being able to run a docker container and have it hook into a cygwin X server that's already running would be a good feature generally. Especially if it would enable me to disable WSL again.
> 
> (*As an aside: while I have gotten it to compile, and it runs in the console, so many tests break that I'm afraid to even try compiling it for gtk3; so a docker container of debian stable seemed a logical next step and i half-expected it to just work, to be honest, given how seamless the rest of my cygwin experience has been recently, and I would put money on these two issues being on docker/docker-desktop/wsl, given how poor wslg's integration is despite being a microsoft project)

If it's of any help in understanding this, in wsl I set DISPLAY=:0
and can start X apps that connect to the Cygwin X server.  I wonder
if there are issues trying to run two X servers at the same time ...

Best - Eliot Moss

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[chrstfer]

Moss,

Have you made any major changes to your cygwin X server settings? I tried this with a fresh install of the cygwin Xserver suite, first thing i did, but was unable to get it to work. 

I assume you are using Docker Desktop? Do you have it integrated with WSL? 

Thanks for the quick reply! This will be my last for the night. Don't want to flood.


Chris


------- Original Message -------
On Thursday, February 23rd, 2023 at 9:58 PM, Eliot Moss <moss@cs.umass.edu> wrote:


> 
> 
> On 2/24/2023 1:51 PM, chrstfer via Cygwin wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > First mail, so while I'm fairly sure it's on topic please forgive me if it isn't.
> > 
> > Has anyone tried to get a docker container with an X app in it to connect to the cygwin x server?
> > 
> > When I run startxwin after starting the wslg container the cygwin Xserver comes in at address (word?) :1 rather than :0, so the two servers can recognize each other (at least to some degree). I can run a cygwin X app in a cygwin console and get an X window, and I can run a wslg app in a wsl bash instance and get an X window, each on their respective servers. But when I set the env DISPLAY in one to the X of the other, it breaks.
> > 
> > This isn't just a stupid ask for a redundant use-case, either. The cygwin X server is vastly superior to the wslg one, at least insofar as integration with the windows 10 chrome; cygwin X windows no matter the library will snap like a regular windows window will. Anything coming out of wslg, at least when it comes to gtk3 (emacs-git) and QT4 (qutebrowser), have no native window decorations and don't snap. I've also been unable to find a way to run a docker container as a single X root window (ie to run a DE inside of a container) but I bet if I could connect to the cygwin X server that'd be fairly straightforward.
> > 
> > I'll be the first to admit I don't know too much about X so is what I'm asking even possible? (I do mainly use linux, but normally X is one of those things that i dont fiddle with much)
> > 
> > UItimately/mostly I'm just fed up of being stuck in Windows windowland at work and not having emacs-git*. At least thats how i landed on this topic, but it seems to me being able to run a docker container and have it hook into a cygwin X server that's already running would be a good feature generally. Especially if it would enable me to disable WSL again.
> > 
> > (*As an aside: while I have gotten it to compile, and it runs in the console, so many tests break that I'm afraid to even try compiling it for gtk3; so a docker container of debian stable seemed a logical next step and i half-expected it to just work, to be honest, given how seamless the rest of my cygwin experience has been recently, and I would put money on these two issues being on docker/docker-desktop/wsl, given how poor wslg's integration is despite being a microsoft project)
> 
> 
> If it's of any help in understanding this, in wsl I set DISPLAY=:0
> and can start X apps that connect to the Cygwin X server. I wonder
> if there are issues trying to run two X servers at the same time ...
> 
> Best - Eliot Moss

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[Eliot Moss]

On 2/24/2023 2:07 PM, chrstfer via Cygwin wrote:
> Moss,
> 
> Have you made any major changes to your cygwin X server settings? I tried this with a fresh install of the cygwin Xserver suite, first thing i did, but was unable to get it to work.
> 
> I assume you are using Docker Desktop? Do you have it integrated with WSL?
> 
> Thanks for the quick reply! This will be my last for the night. Don't want to flood.

I was not referring to Docker at all.

My XWin.0.log contains this:

XWin :0 -multiwindow -clipboard -wgl -ac -unixkill -listen tcp -clipboard -resize -engine 1 
-emulate3buttons 100 -dpi 144

HTH - Eliot

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[Earnie Boyd]

> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:37:03 -0500
> From: Christopher Faylor <cygwin@cygwin.com>
> To: Matthew Aldous <Matthew@Aldous.com>
> Cc: dj@redhat.com, cygwin@cygwin.com
> Subject: Re: mingw-runtime-2.3, w32api-2.1, uberbaum
> Message-ID: <20030130183703.GC7039@redhat.com>
> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Please check out the project web page for links to available information
> and ports:  http://cygwin.com/ .
> 
> If you don't see what you need there, then the cygwin mailing list is
> the best place to make observations or get questions answered.
> Information on the mailing list is available at the project web page.
> 
> For your convenience, I've reset the Reply-To: address to point to the
> cygwin mailing list.  I've also Cc'ed this reply there.
> 

And since this has to do more with MinGW than with Cygwin, it's would be 
better discussed on the mingw-users@lists.sf.net list.  I likewise have 
redirected this there.

> On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:51:53PM +0100, Matthew Aldous wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm trying to build a cross compiled mingw build under netbsd 1.6 using the
>>uberbaum cvs sources, but am experiencing the errors below with pex-win32.c
>>
>>I'm using mingw-runtime-2.3 and w32api-2.1, and was wondering if there was
>>an obvious "try this" solution when using newlib..
>>

If you're building a MinGW of GCC then why are the newlib headers being 
included for the target binary?  Perhaps 
http://www.mingw.org/mingwfaq.shtml#faq-cross might help.

Earnie.

>>Thanks in advance,
>>
>>Matthew Aldous.
>>
>>gmake[1]: Entering directory 
>>`/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/i386-pc-mingw32/libiberty'
>>if [ x"" != x ]; then \
>>/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/gcc/xgcc 
>>-B/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/gcc/ -nostdinc 
>>-B/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/i386-pc-mingw32/newlib/ 
>>-isystem 
>>/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/i386-pc-mingw32/newlib/targ-include 
>>-isystem /home/user/uberbaum/newlib/libc/include 
>>-B/usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/bin/ -B/usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/lib/ 
>>-isystem /usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/include 
>>-L/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/ld -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -g 
>>-O2 -I. -I../../../libiberty/../include  -W -Wall -Wtraditional 
>>-pedantic  ../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c -o pic/pex-win32.o; \
>>else true; fi
>>/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/gcc/xgcc 
>>-B/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/gcc/ -nostdinc 
>>-B/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/i386-pc-mingw32/newlib/ 
>>-isystem 
>>/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/i386-pc-mingw32/newlib/targ-include 
>>-isystem /home/user/uberbaum/newlib/libc/include 
>>-B/usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/bin/ -B/usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/lib/ 
>>-isystem /usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/include 
>>-L/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/ld -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -O2 -g 
>>-O2 -I. -I../../../libiberty/../include  -W -Wall -Wtraditional 
>>-pedantic ../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c -o pex-win32.o
>>In file included from ../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:35:
>>/usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/include/io.h:144: error: conflicting types 
>>for `getcwd'
>>/home/user/uberbaum/newlib/libc/include/sys/unistd.h:49: error: previous 
>>declaration of `getcwd'
>>In file included from 
>>/home/user/uberbaum/newlib/libc/include/sys/fcntl.h:164,
>>               from /home/user/uberbaum/newlib/libc/include/fcntl.h:1,
>>               from ../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:36:
>>/home/user/uberbaum/newlib/libc/include/sys/stat.h:125: error: 
>>conflicting types for `mkdir'
>>/usr/local/i386-pc-mingw32/include/io.h:145: error: previous declaration 
>>of `mkdir'
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c: In function `pexecute':
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:188: error: `_spawnvp' undeclared (first 
>>use in this function)
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:188: error: (Each undeclared identifier 
>>is reported only once
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:188: error: for each function it appears in.)
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:188: error: `_spawnv' undeclared (first 
>>use in this function)
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:206: warning: assignment discards 
>>qualifiers from pointer target type
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:141: warning: unused variable `retries'
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:141: warning: unused variable 
>>`sleep_interval'
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:133: warning: unused parameter `this_pname'
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:134: warning: unused parameter `temp_base'
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c: In function `pwait':
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:228: warning: implicit declaration of 
>>function `_cwait'
>>../../../libiberty/pex-win32.c:224: warning: unused parameter `flags'
>>gmake[1]: *** [pex-win32.o] Error 1
>>gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
>>`/home/user/uberbaum/obj.i386-pc-mingw32/i386-pc-mingw32/libiberty'
>>gmake: *** [all-target-libiberty] Error 2
>>
> 
> At 09:54 PM 1/30/2003, Jim Kleckner wrote:
> 
> 
>>Max Bowsher wrote:
>>
>>
>>>William A. Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>>2. Failing that, it would be nice if the setup program had a button that
>>>>set all the values to Keep.   The problem is that if I want a new
>>>>package X, I have to click 20 other packages to Keep, or risk an
>>>>update of everything. There should be a way to update one single
>>>>package.   Is there a way?
>>>
>>>It's in CVS. The next snapshot will have it.
>>>Max.
>>
>>Thanks!  While you have the code in hand, would it be
>>possible to allow the setup window to be resized?
>>I'm constantly wanting to see more lines at once...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Have you been reading the email archives?  I think I've heard 
> that request before! :-)
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Hall                              lhall@rfk.com
> RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
> 838 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
> Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX
> 
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">
> Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> 
> 
>>At 09:54 PM 1/30/2003, Jim Kleckner wrote:
>>
>>[snip ]
>>
>>>Thanks!  While you have the code in hand, would it be
>>>possible to allow the setup window to be resized?
>>>I'm constantly wanting to see more lines at once...
>>
>>Have you been reading the email archives?  I think I've heard 
>>that request before! :-)
> 
> 
> I see the answer here:
> http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2002-11/msg00309.html
> 
> Sorry to duplicate.  I guess every single thing needs to be searched
> before replying...
> 
> Jim
> 
> </div>


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>Dear sirs:
>		I recently dowloaded a copy of cygwin B20. When I execute it gives me a
>warning of "cannot find /tmp,please create" I went into the read me file and
>it says to type in 'makdir -p/tmp'  (from command.com) I get an error of
>cannot create file. Am I supposed to be doing this from a dos prompt or from
>the actual bash window. I've tried both and get the same message. Any help
>would be greatly appreciated. I am in the process of trying to learn th "c"
>language and need to figure out how to get the compiler to work.

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