From: Charles Wilson <cwilson@ee.gatech.edu>
To: Christopher Faylor <cgf@cygnus.com>
Cc: Simon Quellen Field <sfield@nc.com>,
Cygwin Forum <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 07:47:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <36C2FB9D.519A1D88@ece.gatech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19990211090950.B25305@cygnus.com>
Although I agree with your sentiment, Chris, I think you picked the wrong target.
I did not find Simon's post to be a bad-humored rant at all. (Off-topic - well,
probably so, yes) Truthfully, I thought he expressed a good idea - and rather
than whining about some problem, he proposed a solution. That's what the
open-source community is all about, right?
--Chuck
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Actually, you have seen very few unsubscribe messages in the last few
> years because the previous mailing list software was set up to do pretty
> much what you describe.
>
> As should be painfully obvious, we are still in the process of tweaking
> the new mailing list software. We didn't get everything exactly right
> in our first attempt.
>
> Also, you're responding to a thread that died out almost a week ago.
>
> Personally, I find these little bad-humored, off-topic rants much more
> distracting than the occasional 'unsubscribe' message.
>
> YMMV.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Simon Quellen Field wrote:
> >How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
> >messages? When that many people can't figure out how to do common
> >operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
> >software instead of the people.
> >
> >How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
> >about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
> >'unsubscribe' in it? Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
> >it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
> >instead to simply honor the request.
> >
> >Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
> >Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
> >who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
> >programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
> >the world.
> >
> >Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.
> >
> >At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> >>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
> >>>unsubscribe
> >>>
> >>
> >>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
> >>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST
> >>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself. If you don't know what the
> >>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site. It clearly
> >>states the address and the process. See:
> >>
> >> http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
> >>
> >>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
> >>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.
>
> --
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> http://www.cygnus.com/
>
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From: Charles Wilson <cwilson@ee.gatech.edu>
To: Christopher Faylor <cgf@cygnus.com>
Cc: Simon Quellen Field <sfield@nc.com>,
Cygwin Forum <cygwin@sourceware.cygnus.com>
Subject: Re: unsubscribe
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:02:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <36C2FB9D.519A1D88@ece.gatech.edu> (raw)
Message-ID: <19990228230200.JZr44XXTdwQP1frqjFaVcRW3msNsr8jN3HR4LC5qgxs@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19990211090950.B25305@cygnus.com>
Although I agree with your sentiment, Chris, I think you picked the wrong target.
I did not find Simon's post to be a bad-humored rant at all. (Off-topic - well,
probably so, yes) Truthfully, I thought he expressed a good idea - and rather
than whining about some problem, he proposed a solution. That's what the
open-source community is all about, right?
--Chuck
Christopher Faylor wrote:
> Actually, you have seen very few unsubscribe messages in the last few
> years because the previous mailing list software was set up to do pretty
> much what you describe.
>
> As should be painfully obvious, we are still in the process of tweaking
> the new mailing list software. We didn't get everything exactly right
> in our first attempt.
>
> Also, you're responding to a thread that died out almost a week ago.
>
> Personally, I find these little bad-humored, off-topic rants much more
> distracting than the occasional 'unsubscribe' message.
>
> YMMV.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 02:23:38PM -0800, Simon Quellen Field wrote:
> >How many times over the past few years have we seen 'unsubscribe'
> >messages? When that many people can't figure out how to do common
> >operations with a piece of software, maybe it's time to blame the
> >software instead of the people.
> >
> >How difficult can it be to write a list server that looks at the mail it is
> >about to send, checking for content that has nothing but the word
> >'unsubscribe' in it? Certainly once it has found such a piece of mail,
> >it is not brain surgery to decide not to mail it out to the list, but
> >instead to simply honor the request.
> >
> >Maybe the problem is that the list server was designed to make
> >Multi-Level Marketing easy, (hence the name 'ezmlm'), and people
> >who cater to spammers have a different outlook than a bunch of
> >programmers who donate their time to providing free software to
> >the world.
> >
> >Maybe the next free software project should be a smarter list server.
> >
> >At 03:18 PM 2/4/99 -0500, Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> >>At 11:59 AM 2/4/99 -0800, H. Sawyer Gillespie wrote:
> >>>unsubscribe
> >>>
> >>
> >>Can people PLEASE stop sending their requests for unsubscribing to the list?
> >>The proper way to unsubscribe from the list is to send mail to the LIST
> >>SERVER address, NOT the list address itself. If you don't know what the
> >>address is that you should send to, check the Cygnus web site. It clearly
> >>states the address and the process. See:
> >>
> >> http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html
> >>
> >>For example, people looking to get off the cygwin list should send mail to
> >>cygwin-unsubscribe@sourceware.cygnus.com.
>
> --
> cgf@cygnus.com
> http://www.cygnus.com/
>
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1999-02-04 9:04 unsubscribe Simon Quellen Field
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1999-02-04 9:48 ` unsubscribe Ke Du
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1999-02-04 12:00 ` unsubscribe H. Sawyer Gillespie
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1999-02-04 15:30 ` unsubscribe Christopher Faylor
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1999-02-28 23:02 ` unsubscribe H. Sawyer Gillespie
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1999-02-02 5:27 ` OpenGL and glut with B20.1 Suhaib M. Siddiqi
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