sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[sun zheng]

hi team,

sorry for troubling. but

currently i am facing a big problem:
i was requesting to install cygwin 2.6.0-1 in my company's pc since
this is the latest version. due to security checking, it takes nearly
2 months for me to get the approval of this version.
fortunately, it finally goes to packaging process. while this step, i
installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64 to our security
team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
folder.

all is done. but when it goes to version-confirming process. i am crazy!!!
i use "cygcheck -c cygwin" to check version, but it shows "2.6.1-1"!!!!

then i went back to your website main page. it shows 2.6.1-1 as the
latest version. i really really want to cry!!!!


i do not want to take another 2 months for requesting the new 2.6.1-1
version approval!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE HELP ME!!!

1. how can i install 2.6.0-1?? can you send me the setup_64.exe for
this version??
2. if cannot install 2.6.0-1 vir setup_64.exe. can you send me the dll
files to replace in folder "c:\program files\cygwin64", so that i can
get "2.6.0-1" using "cygcheck -c cygwin" ???

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this really matters!! i beg your help!!!
waiting for your response eagerly...




Regards,
Jerry

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Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[Marco Atzeri]

On 17/01/2017 13:42, sun zheng wrote:
> hi team,
>
> sorry for troubling. but
>
> currently i am facing a big problem:
> i was requesting to install cygwin 2.6.0-1 in my company's pc since
> this is the latest version. due to security checking, it takes nearly
> 2 months for me to get the approval of this version.
> fortunately, it finally goes to packaging process. while this step, i
> installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
> pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64 to our security
> team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
> folder.
>
> all is done. but when it goes to version-confirming process. i am crazy!!!
> i use "cygcheck -c cygwin" to check version, but it shows "2.6.1-1"!!!!
>
> then i went back to your website main page. it shows 2.6.1-1 as the
> latest version. i really really want to cry!!!!
>
>
> i do not want to take another 2 months for requesting the new 2.6.1-1
> version approval!!!

we will have a (or more) new version in two months


> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> PLEASE HELP ME!!!
>
> 1. how can i install 2.6.0-1?? can you send me the setup_64.exe for
> this version??
> 2. if cannot install 2.6.0-1 vir setup_64.exe. can you send me the dll
> files to replace in folder "c:\program files\cygwin64", so that i can
> get "2.6.0-1" using "cygcheck -c cygwin" ???
>
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> this really matters!! i beg your help!!!
> waiting for your response eagerly...
>

As cygwin is a rolling distribution you can consider

http://www.fruitbat.org/Cygwin/timemachine.html#AHEM

for an installation frozen in time.

Regards
Marco


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RE: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[Nellis, Kenneth (Conduent)]

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From: Marco Atzeri [mailto:marco.atzeri@gmail.com]
> On 17/01/2017 13:42, sun zheng wrote:
> > hi team,
> >
> > sorry for troubling. but
> >
> > currently i am facing a big problem:
> > i was requesting to install cygwin 2.6.0-1 in my company's pc since
> > this is the latest version. due to security checking, it takes nearly
> > 2 months for me to get the approval of this version.
> > fortunately, it finally goes to packaging process. while this step, i
> > installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
> > pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64 to our security
> > team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
> > folder.
> >
> > all is done. but when it goes to version-confirming process. i am
> crazy!!!
> > i use "cygcheck -c cygwin" to check version, but it shows "2.6.1-1"!!!!
> >
> > then i went back to your website main page. it shows 2.6.1-1 as the
> > latest version. i really really want to cry!!!!
> >
> >
> > i do not want to take another 2 months for requesting the new 2.6.1-1
> > version approval!!!
> 
> we will have a (or more) new version in two months
> 
> 
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > PLEASE HELP ME!!!
> >
> > 1. how can i install 2.6.0-1?? can you send me the setup_64.exe for
> > this version??
> > 2. if cannot install 2.6.0-1 vir setup_64.exe. can you send me the dll
> > files to replace in folder "c:\program files\cygwin64", so that i can
> > get "2.6.0-1" using "cygcheck -c cygwin" ???
> >
> > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > this really matters!! i beg your help!!!
> > waiting for your response eagerly...
> >
> 
> As cygwin is a rolling distribution you can consider
> 
> http://www.fruitbat.org/Cygwin/timemachine.html#AHEM
> 
> for an installation frozen in time.
> 
> Regards
> Marco

Maybe I'm missing something because I'm confused why Marco is suggesting 
timemachine when setup.exe still offers version 2.6.0-1. Just click on 
the package in the New column until it shows your version, then proceed 
with the installation.

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Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[Marco Atzeri]

On 17/01/2017 15:09, Nellis, Kenneth (Conduent) wrote:
> From: Marco Atzeri
>> On 17/01/2017 13:42, sun zheng wrote:
>>> hi team,

>>
>> As cygwin is a rolling distribution you can consider
>>
>> http://www.fruitbat.org/Cygwin/timemachine.html#AHEM
>>
>> for an installation frozen in time.
>>
>> Regards
>> Marco
>
> Maybe I'm missing something because I'm confused why Marco is suggesting
> timemachine when setup.exe still offers version 2.6.0-1. Just click on
> the package in the New column until it shows your version, then proceed
> with the installation.
>
> --Ken Nellis
>

Hi Ken,
two reasons:

- he could need to install again sometime in the future,
and than going back will not work.

- some packages could use new features added by 2.6.1
   and it will be a mess to understand which packages must be
   downgraded.

Regards
Marco

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Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[Andrey Repin]

Greetings, sun zheng!

> installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
> pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64

Root directory with space or other ambiguous character may cause
interoperability issues.

> to our security
> team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
> folder.

Repackaging an installed Cygwin release may also cause issues.
Please refer to http://cygwin.com/faq/#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures f.e.


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Sorry for my terrible english...


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Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[Brian Inglis]

On 2017-01-17 10:25, Andrey Repin wrote:
>> installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
>> pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64
> Root directory with space or other ambiguous character may cause
> interoperability issues.
>> to our security
>> team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
>> folder.
> Repackaging an installed Cygwin release may also cause issues.
> Please refer to http://cygwin.com/faq/#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures f.e.

It's the org's problem if they want to spend a lot of time and money 
packaging a frequently updated non-Windows install process, which is a 
Unix-distro-like rolling upgrade. 
If they are taking on the role of a distro they should really be 
packaging each package install, with its dependencies, separately, 
like any other downstream, and doing their own setup.

If they were smarter, they'd just package Setup with a fixed mirror, 
or maintain their own local mirror, and package updating from that 
mirror using Setup, maybe even become and offer a public Cygwin mirror?

It's the requesters' and packagers' problems to read and understand 
the Setup process, FAQ, and postinstall scripts - probably why it 
takes 2 months - getting some random Windows package scripter to 
understand a Unix-like net install of packages and dependencies 
- and stuff that into an msi that works reliably under SCCM.

Get them to start packaging the current release and upgrades right away, 
otherwise something else may have changed by the time they start!

And they should always be packaging installs using the defaults, like 
C:\Cygwin64 not %ProgramFiles%, if they want to avoid problems with 
users running programs and scripts.

Quite a few Windows packages still want their own directory under root, 
as they prioritize their own stable approach over MS Windows approaches.
Easier for the little guys with simple products, and the big guys making 
lots of millions mainly on Windows, but lots of others go their own way.
Following "standards" is all very well, but what product manager is going 
to be able to get signoff on spending a year and $1M or more to change 
a complex working product and install process to the MS approach?
Product users don't care as long as the result works on their desktops, 
and they won't notice or pay more for a Windows logo - that only "benefits" 
the marketing department, so they should be footing the bill for making 
and testing the product conforms.

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Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[sun zheng]

hi Repin/team

thanks for your reply!


i also tried to install at c:/cygwin64
and the cygwin version is also 2.6.1-1

it is not due to my install method. i just mean that i am using the latest setupexe, so the version is 2.6.1-1.
and what i need is how to install 2.6.0-1 currently? 
or can you send me some dll to replace so that i can get "2.6.0-1" using "cygcheck -c cygwin"?

please help me!!!


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> 在 2017年1月18日，01:25，Andrey Repin <anrdaemon@yandex.ru> 写道：
> 
> Greetings, sun zheng!
> 
>> installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
>> pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64
> 
> Root directory with space or other ambiguous character may cause
> interoperability issues.
> 
>> to our security
>> team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
>> folder.
> 
> Repackaging an installed Cygwin release may also cause issues.
> Please refer to http://cygwin.com/faq/#faq.using.fixing-fork-failures f.e.
> 
> 
> -- 
> With best regards,
> Andrey Repin
> Tuesday, January 17, 2017 20:19:42
> 
> Sorry for my terrible english...
> 

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Re: help getting version 2.6.0-1

[Brian Inglis]

On 2017-01-17 17:04, sun zheng wrote:
> i also tried to install at c:/cygwin64 and the cygwin version is also
> 2.6.1-1
> it is not due to my install method. i just mean that i am using the
> latest setupexe, so the version is 2.6.1-1.
> and what i need is how to install 2.6.0-1 currently? 
> or can you send me some dll to replace so that i can get "2.6.0-1"
> using "cygcheck -c cygwin"?

> From: Marco Atzeri 
>> As cygwin is a rolling distribution you can consider
>> http://www.fruitbat.org/Cygwin/timemachine.html
>> for an installation frozen in time.

As Marco said, read the Cygwin Time Machine archive instructions at that 
page, find the Setup version you require at 
	ftp://www.fruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/setup/setup.html
then use that to download the old Setup, find a "circa" mirror near the 
date you downloaded, run the downloaded Setup and add that "circa" mirror, 
then use it to install only the packages you require, as that link is slow, 
and your connection may be dropped if you abuse it.

You may also start Setup manually or using a shortcut with a "circa" 
mirror e.g. 
-O -s ftp://www.fruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/circa/64bit/2016/12/16/151347/

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Re: sincerely beg your help!!! for getting version 2.6.0-1

[Achim Gratz]

sun zheng writes:
> i was requesting to install cygwin 2.6.0-1 in my company's pc since
> this is the latest version. due to security checking, it takes nearly
> 2 months for me to get the approval of this version.

If that's a requirement, you will need to provide a local mirror with
the exact state of packages that your security check is goint to vet.

> fortunately, it finally goes to packaging process. while this step, i
> installed cygwin using setup_64.exe from your website in my personal
> pc, and provide the folder c:\program files\cygwin64 to our security
> team for scanning and confirming. they will re-package using this
> folder.

You don't want to install into %PROGRAM_FILES% or WIndows' folder
virtualization will play bad tricks on you if you ever try to write to
anywhere inside that installation directory.  You also don't want to
package up an installation to install on further machines, instead
you'll need to do an installation on each machine.

> all is done. but when it goes to version-confirming process. i am crazy!!!
> i use "cygcheck -c cygwin" to check version, but it shows "2.6.1-1"!!!!
>
> then i went back to your website main page. it shows 2.6.1-1 as the
> latest version. i really really want to cry!!!!

Well, at the moment you can still select the previous version from setup
and have a reasonable chance of everything working correctly.  But
Cygwin really is a rolling distribution, so your security process is
fundamentally at odds with how it is updated.


Regards,
Achim.
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