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* mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system
@ 2024-01-16 21:38 Jim Garrison
  2024-01-18  6:58 ` Thomas Wolff
  2024-01-18 13:08 ` Andrey Repin
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jim Garrison @ 2024-01-16 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

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TL;DR

New laptop, setting up mintty configuration identical to working desktop 
system.  When connected to one specific Debian 11 (Bullseye) system (to 
which I connect often from the desktop with no issues), backspace 
appears to send ^H, and Debian interprets ^H correctly, but the terminal 
display echoes a space character instead of backing up one space.

Details

I have mintty set to term type "mintty" and "Keys/Backarrow sends ^H".

A little experimentation shows that the Debian system is correctly 
interpreting the backspace, only the mintty display is incorrect.  I 
guess there are two possibilities:

* Debian is echoing a blank when receiving ^H
* mintty is not correctly displaying the ^H echoed by Debian

Note, a local mintty session is NOT affected, backspace works fine there.

Also note when I ssh to a Debian 12 system and an old CentOS 7 system I 
don't see this issue, and when connecting from my desktop all three 
systems work.  I am stumped for how to troubleshoot this further.

I diffed the output of "stty -a" between the non-working system and one 
that works. The only differences are:

Working system: eol = <undef>; eol2 = <undef>;

Non-working system: eol = M-^?; eol2 = M-^?;

cygcheck.out attached


On the Debian 11 (non-working) system:

jhg@smtp ~
$ echo $TERM
mintty

jhg@smtp ~
$ stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 37; columns 128; line = 0;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = M-^?; eol2 
= M-^?; swtch = <undef>; start = ^Q; stop = ^S;
susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; discard = ^O; min = 1; 
time = 0;
-parenb -parodd -cmspar cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon 
-ixoff -iuclc ixany imaxbel iutf8
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 
vt0 ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop 
-echoprt echoctl echoke -flusho -extproc

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Cygwin Configuration Diagnostics
Current System Time: Tue Jan 16 21:07:23 2024

Windows 11 Professional Ver 10.0 Build 22631 

Path:	C:\cygwin64\usr\local\bin
	C:\cygwin64\bin
	C:\Windows\system32
	C:\Windows
	C:\Windows\System32\Wbem
	C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0
	C:\Windows\System32\OpenSSH
	C:\Program Files\dotnet
	C:\Users\jhg\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps

Output from C:\cygwin64\bin\id.exe
UID: 197609(jhg)               GID: 197121(None)
197121(None)                   545(Users)
4(INTERACTIVE)                 66049(CONSOLE LOGON)
11(Authenticated Users)        15(This Organization)
113(Local account)             4095(CurrentSession)
66048(LOCAL)                   262154(NTLM Authentication)
401408(Medium Mandatory Level)

SysDir: C:\Windows\system32
WinDir: C:\Windows

PWD = '/home/jhg'
HOME = '/home/jhg'
USER = 'jhg'

ProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)'
!:: = '::\'
CommonProgramFiles(x86) = 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files'
SHELL = '/bin/bash'
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = '12'
FPS_BROWSER_USER_PROFILE_STRING = 'Default'
PROCESSOR_LEVEL = '6'
TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION = '3.7.0'
USERDOMAIN_ROAMINGPROFILE = 'JHG-LAPTOP'
HOSTNAME = 'jhg-laptop'
PROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files'
PATHEXT = '.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC'
OS = 'Windows_NT'
HOMEDRIVE = 'C:'
EFC_7192 = '1'
USERDOMAIN = 'JHG-LAPTOP'
USERPROFILE = 'C:\Users\jhg'
OneDriveConsumer = 'C:\Users\jhg\OneDrive'
PRINTER = 'Pantum M7100DW Series PCL6 0001'
TZ = 'America/Los_Angeles'
ALLUSERSPROFILE = 'C:\ProgramData'
ORIGINAL_PATH = '/c/Windows/system32:/c/Windows:/c/Windows/System32/Wbem:/c/Windows/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/c/Windows/System32/OpenSSH:/c/Program Files/dotnet:/c/Users/jhg/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps'
CommonProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
USERNAME = 'jhg'
OneDrive = 'C:\Users\jhg\OneDrive'
COMSPEC = 'C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe'
APPDATA = 'C:\Users\jhg\AppData\Roaming'
SYSTEMROOT = 'C:\Windows'
LOCALAPPDATA = 'C:\Users\jhg\AppData\Local'
COMPUTERNAME = 'JHG-LAPTOP'
INFOPATH = '/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info'
IGCCSVC_DB = 'AQAAANCMnd8BFdERjHoAwE/Cl+sBAAAAQ0uTJ62BlkSPB67Y7tTK+QQAAAACAAAAAAAQZgAAAAEAACAAAADfv7j0C52Xl7eUI/k3XOnivXpGr54yWFPKSglrCL7BEwAAAAAOgAAAAAIAACAAAAAyNg0flOvw4jYj5mggwKa2s3v4JgvoNQn6nhnnR27rZmAAAAASShBU5Zw1B5S2ZG2lHm75GY7d9ameBVz99ejkrG660pnpSwY0I9I+bLAc00Xz0FaOBmjr/6t4YbtVQbqut/7CegG+1yakqSKyJQ80BWogLdEu+2NQbDpInOLhp89wvFZAAAAA7wHzN9gEfb3ueLY+V/lcNNP+a6whYeynrqfeZE90FxNVJsI4Cco8k6iJmSVf0jSuX72Tr8MNB4NA3inp5CyJKA=='
TERM = 'mintty'
LOGONSERVER = '\\JHG-LAPTOP'
ZES_ENABLE_SYSMAN = '1'
PSModulePath = 'C:\Program Files\WindowsPowerShell\Modules;C:\Windows\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules'
TEMP = '/tmp'
SHLVL = '1'
PROCESSOR_REVISION = '9a04'
DriverData = 'C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\DriverData'
COMMONPROGRAMFILES = 'C:\Program Files\Common Files'
LC_CTYPE = 'en_US.UTF-8'
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = 'Intel64 Family 6 Model 154 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel'
SESSIONNAME = 'Console'
PS1 = '\[\e]0;\w\a\]\n\[\e[32m\]\u@\h \[\e[33m\]\w\[\e[0m\]\n\$ '
HOMEPATH = '\Users\jhg'
TMP = '/tmp'
ProgramW6432 = 'C:\Program Files'
PROFILEREAD = 'true'
MINTTY_SHORTCUT = '/c/Users/jhg/AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/Internet Explorer/Quick Launch/User Pinned/TaskBar/Cygwin64 Terminal.lnk'
WINDIR = 'C:\Windows'
FPS_BROWSER_APP_PROFILE_STRING = 'Internet Explorer'
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = 'AMD64'
PUBLIC = 'C:\Users\Public'
SYSTEMDRIVE = 'C:'
EXECIGNORE = '*.dll'
OLDPWD = '/home/jhg'
TERM_PROGRAM = 'mintty'
ProgramData = 'C:\ProgramData'
_ = '/usr/bin/cygcheck'

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CloudStore\Store\DefaultAccount\Cloud\{6747e6d0-f539-493d-90bb-498c78ba3a17}$windows.data.apps.appmetadata$appmetadatalist\windows.data.apps.appmetadata$cygwin64_bash
  (default) = (unsupported type)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\CloudStore\Store\DefaultAccount\Current\{6747e6d0-f539-493d-90bb-498c78ba3a17}$windows.data.apps.appmetadata$appmetadatalist\windows.data.apps.appmetadata$cygwin64_bash
  (default) = (unsupported type)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Directory\background\shell\cygwin64_bash
  (default) = '&Bash Prompt Here'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Directory\background\shell\cygwin64_bash\command
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64\bin\mintty.exe -e /bin/xhere /bin/bash.exe "%V"'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Directory\shell\cygwin64_bash
  (default) = '&Bash Prompt Here'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Directory\shell\cygwin64_bash\command
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64\bin\mintty.exe -e /bin/xhere /bin/bash.exe "%L"'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Drive\Background\Shell\cygwin64_bash
  (default) = '&Bash Prompt Here'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Drive\Background\Shell\cygwin64_bash\command
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64\bin\mintty.exe -e /bin/xhere /bin/bash.exe "%V"'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Drive\shell\cygwin64_bash
  (default) = '&Bash Prompt Here'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\Drive\shell\cygwin64_bash\command
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64\bin\mintty.exe -e /bin/xhere /bin/bash.exe "%L"'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\Installations
  (default) = '\??\C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cygwin\setup
  (default) = 'C:\cygwin64'
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\cygwin64_bash
  (default) = 'Cygwin Bash Prompt Here (x86_64)'
  UnInstallString = 'C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe -c "PATH=/bin /bin/chere -u -s bash"'

obcaseinsensitive set to 1

Cygwin installations found in the registry:
  System: Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64
  User:   Key: e022582115c10879 Path: C:\cygwin64

c:  hd  NTFS    468803Mb  20% CP CS UN PA FC    QU  OS
g:  hd  FAT32   468803Mb  24% CP    UN              jim.garrison@guildoforegonwoo...
h:  hd  FAT32   468803Mb  24% CP    UN              test1.user@guildoforegonwoodw...

C:\cygwin64      /         system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\bin  /usr/bin  system  binary,auto
C:\cygwin64\lib  /usr/lib  system  binary,auto
cygdrive prefix  /         user    binary,posix=0,auto

Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\awk
 -> C:\cygwin64\bin\gawk.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\bash.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cat.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\certutil.exe
Not Found: clinfo
Found: C:\Windows\system32\comp.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\convert.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\cp.exe
Not Found: cpp (good!)
Not Found: crontab
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\curl.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\curl.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\curl.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\curl.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\expand.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\expand.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\expand.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\expand.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\find.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\find.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ftp.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\ftp.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\ftp.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\ftp.exe
Not Found: gcc
Not Found: gdb
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\grep.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\hostname.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\hostname.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\hostname.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\hostname.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\kill.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\klist.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ld.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ls.exe
Not Found: make
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\mv.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\nslookup.exe
Not Found: patch
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\perl.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\replace.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\rm.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sed.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sh.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\shutdown.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\sort.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\sort.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\sort.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\sort.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\ssh.exe
Found: C:\Windows\System32\OpenSSH\ssh.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\ssh.exe hides C:\Windows\System32\OpenSSH\ssh.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\tar.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\tar.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\tar.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\test.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\timeout.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\timeout.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\timeout.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\timeout.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vi.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\vim.exe
Found: C:\cygwin64\bin\whoami.exe
Found: C:\Windows\system32\whoami.exe
Warning: C:\cygwin64\bin\whoami.exe hides C:\Windows\system32\whoami.exe

   45k 2023/07/11 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygargp-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
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                  "cygassuan-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-12-18 03:24
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                  "cygattr-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-01-15 15:39
  254k 2020/03/31 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygblkid-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygblkid-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-28 06:22
  134k 2023/12/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbrotlicommon-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.1 sys=5.2
                  "cygbrotlicommon-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-12-12 12:18
   49k 2023/12/12 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbrotlidec-1.dll - os=4.0 img=1.1 sys=5.2
                  "cygbrotlidec-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-12-12 12:18
   66k 2019/07/21 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygbz2-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygbz2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-22 00:05
   71k 2018/03/16 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcares-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcares-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-03-16 02:33
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                  "cygcom_err-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-01-02 02:39
  193k 2021/05/20 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcrypt-2.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcrypt-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2021-05-20 09:38
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                  "cygcrypto-1.1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-09-12 18:36
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                  "cygcrypto-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-11-04 15:56
  677k 2023/12/09 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygcurl-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygcurl-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-12-09 20:42
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                  "cygdb-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:05
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                  "cygdb_cxx-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:06
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                  "cygdb_sql-5.3.dll" v0.0 ts=2017-09-28 20:06
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                  "cygdeflate-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-12-11 22:45
  174k 2023/02/08 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygedit-0.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygedit-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-02-08 15:01
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                  "cygexpat-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-03-06 08:33
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                  "cygfdisk-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-03-28 06:23
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                  "cygffi-8.dll" v0.0 ts=2022-10-23 13:44
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                  "cygfido2-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-01-21 10:26
  251k 2020/09/13 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfontconfig-1.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cygfontconfig-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-09-13 16:50
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                  "cygformw-10.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-12-31 08:56
  735k 2023/08/02 C:\cygwin64\bin\cygfreetype-6.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
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                  "cygfribidi-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2024-01-06 17:28
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                  "cyggcrypt-20.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-11-19 19:27
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                  "cyggdbm_compat-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-10 14:53
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                  "cyggio-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-07-02 14:30
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                  "cygglib-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-07-02 14:26
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                  "cyggmodule-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-07-02 14:27
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                  "cyggnutls-30.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-07-29 03:55
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                  "cyggobject-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-07-02 14:27
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                  "cyggomp-1.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-06-05 16:01
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                  "cyggpg-error-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-02-16 21:28
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                  "cyggraphite2-3.dll" v0.0 ts=2020-05-11 19:52
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                  "cyggsasl-18.dll" v0.0 ts=2024-01-06 22:09
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                  "cyggssapi_krb5-2.dll" v0.0 ts=2018-03-16 03:38
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                  "cyggthread-2.0-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-07-02 14:27
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                  "cygharfbuzz-0.dll" v0.0 ts=2023-08-03 19:17
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                  "cyghistory7.dll" v0.0 ts=2022-10-08 05:37
  168k 2019/02/19 C:\cygwin64\bin\cyghogweed-4.dll - os=4.0 img=0.0 sys=5.2
                  "cyghogweed-4.dll" v0.0 ts=2019-02-19 06:59
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base-files                             4.3-3                        OK
bash                                   5.2.15-3                     OK
binutils                               2.41-3                       OK
bzip2                                  1.0.8-1                      OK
ca-certificates                        2023.2.62_v7.0.401-2         OK
chere                                  1.4-1                        OK
coreutils                              9.0-1                        OK
crypto-policies                        20190218-1                   OK
csih                                   0.9.14-1                     OK
curl                                   8.5.0-1                      OK
cygrunsrv                              1.64-1                       OK
cygutils                               1.4.17-1                     OK
cygwin                                 3.4.10-1                     OK
dash                                   0.5.12-2                     OK
dejavu-fonts                           2.37-1                       OK
desktop-file-utils                     0.23-1                       OK
diffutils                              3.10-1                       OK
editrights                             1.04-1                       OK
file                                   5.44-1                       OK
findutils                              4.9.0-1                      OK
gamin                                  0.1.10-15                    OK
gawk                                   5.3.0-1                      OK
getent                                 2.18.90-5                    OK
gettext                                0.22.4-1                     OK
git                                    2.43.0-1                     OK
gitk                                   2.43.0-1                     OK
gnupg                                  1.4.23-1                     OK
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grep                                   3.11-1                       OK
groff                                  1.23.0-1                     OK
gsettings-desktop-schemas              3.24.1-1                     OK
gzip                                   1.13-1                       OK
hostname                               3.13-1                       OK
inetutils                              2.5-1                        OK
info                                   7.0.3-3                      OK
ipc-utils                              1.1-1                        OK
less                                   643-1                        OK
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libassuan0                             2.5.6-1                      OK
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* Re: mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system
  2024-01-16 21:38 mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system Jim Garrison
@ 2024-01-18  6:58 ` Thomas Wolff
  2024-01-18 13:08 ` Andrey Repin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Wolff @ 2024-01-18  6:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin


Am 16.01.2024 um 22:38 schrieb Jim Garrison via Cygwin:
> TL;DR
>
> New laptop, setting up mintty configuration identical to working 
> desktop system.  When connected to one specific Debian 11 (Bullseye) 
> system (to which I connect often from the desktop with no issues), 
> backspace appears to send ^H, and Debian interprets ^H correctly, but 
> the terminal display echoes a space character instead of backing up 
> one space.
>
> Details
>
> I have mintty set to term type "mintty" and "Keys/Backarrow sends ^H".
>
> A little experimentation shows that the Debian system is correctly 
> interpreting the backspace, only the mintty display is incorrect. I 
> guess there are two possibilities:
>
> * Debian is echoing a blank when receiving ^H
> * mintty is not correctly displaying the ^H echoed by Debian
>
> Note, a local mintty session is NOT affected, backspace works fine there.
>
> Also note when I ssh to a Debian 12 system and an old CentOS 7 system 
> I don't see this issue, and when connecting from my desktop all three 
> systems work.  I am stumped for how to troubleshoot this further.
>
> I diffed the output of "stty -a" between the non-working system and 
> one that works. The only differences are:
>
> Working system: eol = <undef>; eol2 = <undef>;
>
> Non-working system: eol = M-^?; eol2 = M-^?;
>
> cygcheck.out attached
>
>
> On the Debian 11 (non-working) system:
>
> jhg@smtp ~
> $ echo $TERM
> mintty
>
> jhg@smtp ~
> $ stty -a
> speed 38400 baud; rows 37; columns 128; line = 0;
> intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = M-^?; 
> eol2 = M-^?; swtch = <undef>; start = ^Q; stop = ^S;
> susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V; discard = ^O; min = 1; 
> time = 0;
> -parenb -parodd -cmspar cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
> -ignbrk -brkint -ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl 
> ixon -ixoff -iuclc ixany imaxbel iutf8
> opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 
> bs0 vt0 ff0
> isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -xcase -tostop 
> -echoprt echoctl echoke -flusho -extproc
>
You've verified the stty setting 'erase' above, please also verify the 
mintty behaviour, e.g. with ^V Backarrow in a command line (to echo the 
character as ^H, hopefully) to check that the two settings match 
consistently.
I've noticed myself on an older Debian system that behaviour of the 
'erase' character may be weird; it initially worked as expected with ^H, 
then I switched to stty erase ^?, then back to ^H, and behaviour was 
different: ^H did not erase a character anymore but echoed "^H". Anyway, 
this is handling of the shell (or realine library) and not under control 
of mintty.
Thomas

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* Re: mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system
  2024-01-16 21:38 mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system Jim Garrison
  2024-01-18  6:58 ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2024-01-18 13:08 ` Andrey Repin
  2024-01-18 14:14   ` Thomas Wolff
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Andrey Repin @ 2024-01-18 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jim Garrison via Cygwin, cygwin

Greetings, Jim Garrison via Cygwin!

> Details

> I have mintty set to term type "mintty"

Don't do that.
$TERM is not a random made-up string. It should be supported by appropriate
terminfo(5) entry on the system. If an entry is not found, it will fall back
to some other entry, which could be 'vt100' or even 'dumb', which is not what
you want, certainly.


-- 
With best regards,
Andrey Repin
Thursday, January 18, 2024 16:05:02

Sorry for my terrible english...


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* Re: mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system
  2024-01-18 13:08 ` Andrey Repin
@ 2024-01-18 14:14   ` Thomas Wolff
  2024-01-19 22:59     ` Jim Garrison
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Wolff @ 2024-01-18 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin



Am 18.01.2024 um 14:08 schrieb Andrey Repin via Cygwin:
> Greetings, Jim Garrison via Cygwin!
>
>> Details
>> I have mintty set to term type "mintty"
> Don't do that.
> $TERM is not a random made-up string. It should be supported by appropriate
> terminfo(5) entry on the system. If an entry is not found, it will fall back
> to some other entry, which could be 'vt100' or even 'dumb', which is not what
> you want, certainly.
Yes, I forgot to mention that. One way to check whether a terminal 
description addressed by your $TERM value is actually installed on the 
system, is to run the tool `infocmp`.

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* Re: mintty ^H weirdness with ssh to one specific Debian 11 system
  2024-01-18 14:14   ` Thomas Wolff
@ 2024-01-19 22:59     ` Jim Garrison
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jim Garrison @ 2024-01-19 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cygwin

On 1/18/2024 06:14, Thomas Wolff via Cygwin wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 18.01.2024 um 14:08 schrieb Andrey Repin via Cygwin:
>> Greetings, Jim Garrison via Cygwin!
>>
>>> Details
>>> I have mintty set to term type "mintty"
>> Don't do that.
>> $TERM is not a random made-up string. It should be supported by 
>> appropriate
>> terminfo(5) entry on the system. If an entry is not found, it will 
>> fall back
>> to some other entry, which could be 'vt100' or even 'dumb', which is 
>> not what
>> you want, certainly.
> Yes, I forgot to mention that. One way to check whether a terminal 
> description addressed by your $TERM value is actually installed on the 
> system, is to run the tool `infocmp`.
> 

Thanks to those who replied.  In the inimitable words of one Miss Emily
Litella (Gilda Radner).... "Never Mind!"

(L)user error. My apologies for the noise.

-- 
Jim Garrison
jhg@acm.org


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